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160rmf said:
zeldaring said:

It would not be difficult at all, cause switch is a good deal more powerful in almost every category. PS3 main problem was the split ram. red dead redemption was one of the most impressive looking games on 360/ps3 made by the most talented developers a quick port on switch is running at 1080p locked 30fps vs 720p/unstable 30fps. The horizon lego game is gonna be more challenging to port then any old ps3 game.

Fair enough, but Switch is in its last year so if there was any plan for Sony to port old games for a Nintendo system, probably it was skipped for a brand new platform full of potential 

I doubt that cause switch user base is at 140 million and still very active just look at all the big nintendo games coming for it that could have been system sellers for switch 2.  New mario rpg, a new zelda, new mario party game., and new Metroid. These are all games that should have been switch 2 exclusive imo to sell the system but Nintendo doesn't  wanna miss out on all the money. Doing switch 2 ports would be way more risky then switch 1.



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zeldaring said:
Soundwave said:

There are several, but Kingdom Come Deliverance comes to mind straight away. That's a game that even a PS4 Pro has drops below 25 fps. Not a chance PS3 could run that game. 

The Switch is way more powerful than a PS3, Nintendo is holding back from letting the Mariko/OLED models in particular flex, it's pretty obvious the Switch OLED can do games at 60 fps (even high end ports of Witcher 3, Hogwarts Legacy, DOOM Eternal can run at 60 fps on the Switch) and even do higher resolution comfortably, but they are not allowing it. IMO this is because they got a massive boost from COVID and realized a Switch Pro would only make selling a Switch 2 harder so they axed that and simply repurposed that as Switch OLED. They are going to force people to buy a Switch 2 to get 60 fps/higher resolution games. 

The OLED dock still allowing 4K output and the chipset having 4K/60 enabled are smoking guns that originally the OLED model was supposed to be something else. 

We are  talking about the specked  hardware. The fact that switch is more powerful if overclocked is irrelevant cause that's not the hardware 99.9% of players have.

The majority of Switch owners do have the Mariko chipset, Nintendo discontinued the old model basically from August 2019 onwards, so the majority has better hardware, Nintendo is simply not allowing it even though we can see clear as day the Switch OLED was even designed with 4K output in mind. They got the boost they were hoping from a Pro model from COVID boosts and then some, figured they would keep the juicer stuff for Switch 2.

And before anyone asks, overclocks have been tested extensively by tons of people, the battery life on Mariko models is 3-4 hours even at max clocks and the temperature of the system remains very cool, not even close to the 80 celcius shut off point (in the 40s), the fan on the Switch at overclock doesn't even go above 49%. 

The OG Switch can even overclock too, you just have lower battery life, but it's not like the thing melts and becomes unusable.

For those curious, here you can see things like DOOM Eternal at 60 fps and also the dynamic resolution kicking up in resolution in undocked mode as another option for a higher res. Witcher 3 and Hogwarts are also 60 fps on Switch, Kingdom Come Deliverance can run at a higher res and locked 30 fps even in rain sections, that may not seem crazy until you realize even PS4 Pro and XBox One X can't hold 30 fps in those sections (PS4 Pro is under 25 fps). 

Witcher 3 also can run at 60 fps on the Switch undocked. PS3? Forget about it. This performance is available on the majority of Switch models and Nintendo clearly was tinkering with 4K output on Switch OLED ... I think they just opted not to offer this to the public because it make selling a Switch 2 harder and they're probably correct. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 18 June 2024

Soundwave said:
zeldaring said:

We are  talking about the specked  hardware. The fact that switch is more powerful if overclocked is irrelevant cause that's not the hardware 99.9% of players have.

The majority of Switch owners do have the Mariko chipset, Nintendo discontinued the old model basically from August 2019 onwards, so the majority has better hardware, Nintendo is simply not allowing it even though we can see clear as day the Switch OLED was even designed with 4K output in mind. They got the boost they were hoping from a Pro model from COVID boosts and then some, figured they would keep the juicer stuff for Switch 2.

And before anyone asks, overclocks have been tested extensively by tons of people, the battery life on Mariko models is 3-4 hours even at max clocks and the temperature of the system remains very cool, not even close to the 80 celcius shut off point (in the 40s), the fan on the Switch at overclock doesn't even go above 49%. 

The OG Switch can even overclock too, you just have lower battery life, but it's not like the thing melts and becomes unusable.

For those curious, here you can see things like DOOM Eternal at 60 fps and also the dynamic resolution kicking up in resolution in undocked mode as another option for a higher res. Witcher 3 and Hogwarts are also 60 fps on Switch, Kingdom Come Deliverance can run at a higher res and locked 30 fps even in rain sections, that may not seem crazy until you realize even PS4 Pro and XBox One X can't hold 30 fps in those sections (PS4 Pro is under 25 fps). 

Witcher 3 also can run at 60 fps on the Switch undocked. PS3? Forget about it. This performance is available on the majority of Switch models and Nintendo clearly was tinkering with 4K output on Switch OLED ... I think they just opted not to offer this to the public because it make selling a Switch 2 harder and they're probably correct. 

This is all still irrelevant and has nothing do with porting ps3 games on switch. in the end developers have to deal with what Nintendo thought was safe specs for switch and that's all  that really matters. posting what switch was capable if over clocked is not gonna matter cause nintendo didn't allow it, and didn't think it was safe to do so.



zeldaring said:
Soundwave said:

The majority of Switch owners do have the Mariko chipset, Nintendo discontinued the old model basically from August 2019 onwards, so the majority has better hardware, Nintendo is simply not allowing it even though we can see clear as day the Switch OLED was even designed with 4K output in mind. They got the boost they were hoping from a Pro model from COVID boosts and then some, figured they would keep the juicer stuff for Switch 2.

And before anyone asks, overclocks have been tested extensively by tons of people, the battery life on Mariko models is 3-4 hours even at max clocks and the temperature of the system remains very cool, not even close to the 80 celcius shut off point (in the 40s), the fan on the Switch at overclock doesn't even go above 49%. 

The OG Switch can even overclock too, you just have lower battery life, but it's not like the thing melts and becomes unusable.

For those curious, here you can see things like DOOM Eternal at 60 fps and also the dynamic resolution kicking up in resolution in undocked mode as another option for a higher res. Witcher 3 and Hogwarts are also 60 fps on Switch, Kingdom Come Deliverance can run at a higher res and locked 30 fps even in rain sections, that may not seem crazy until you realize even PS4 Pro and XBox One X can't hold 30 fps in those sections (PS4 Pro is under 25 fps). 

Witcher 3 also can run at 60 fps on the Switch undocked. PS3? Forget about it. This performance is available on the majority of Switch models and Nintendo clearly was tinkering with 4K output on Switch OLED ... I think they just opted not to offer this to the public because it make selling a Switch 2 harder and they're probably correct. 

This is all still irrelevant and has nothing do with porting ps3 games on switch. in the end developers have to deal with what Nintendo thought was safe specs for switch and that's all  that really matters. posting what switch was capable if over clocked is not gonna matter cause nintendo didn't allow it, and didn't think it was safe to do so.

It's entirely safe to do run the Switch at a higher clocked, thousands of people have done it for years, Mariko models don't even hit 50% fan speed on the when at full clock. 

Nintendo themselves was likely going to allow it, but then axed the 4K features from the OLED model. Has nothing to do with safety, it's about Switch 2. 

But in terms of comparing to a PS3 hardware, Switch 1 is far beyond that. 



Soundwave said:

Witcher 3 also can run at 60 fps on the Switch undocked.

Witcher 3 can reach 50 - 60 fps heavyly modded in some areas (downgraded to 468p, low foliage, slowdowns to below 40 fps in towns).

Otherwise it can't even stay above 40 fps, even outside of towns:

Last edited by Conina - on 18 June 2024

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Soundwave said:
zeldaring said:

This is all still irrelevant and has nothing do with porting ps3 games on switch. in the end developers have to deal with what Nintendo thought was safe specs for switch and that's all  that really matters. posting what switch was capable if over clocked is not gonna matter cause nintendo didn't allow it, and didn't think it was safe to do so.

It's entirely safe to do run the Switch at a higher clocked, thousands of people have done it for years, Mariko models don't even hit 50% fan speed on the when at full clock. 

Nintendo themselves was likely going to allow it, but then axed the 4K features from the OLED model. Has nothing to do with safety, it's about Switch 2. 

But in terms of comparing to a PS3 hardware, Switch 1 is far beyond that. 

LOL so nintendo didn't allow better performance on switch 1 for their nextgen  system coming in 5 years. that just proves that nintendo is anti consumer and holding back their systems on purpose. Reality is probably they did testing and the systems would have a much higher fail rate.



Conina said:
Soundwave said:

Witcher 3 also can run at 60 fps on the Switch undocked.

Witcher 3 can reach 50 - 60 fps heavyly modded (downgraded to 468p, low foliage).

Otherwise it can't even stay above 40 fps:

I believe there are more recent examples of people increasing the RAM speed where the game can run 60 fps more frequently than that. Here's an outdoor area that looks 60 fps or pretty damn close

Persona 5 (PS4 gen game) also can run at 60 fps on Switch

The funny thing about this is the PS4 Pro version doesn't even run at 60 fps, it probably could I don't know why they didn't offer the option. 

Nier Automata (another PS4-gen game) can either be run at 60 fps or you can stay at 30 fps and boost the resolution of the game. 

Switch Pro basically exists, Nintendo just doesn't allow it "officially". Even for Nintendo's own games, something like Xenoblade 3 runs at 60 fps overclocked. Just overclock your Switch and you can have the same performance, easy peasy. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 18 June 2024

Sounds like the Switch 2 will be as powerful as the ps6 pro, maybe ps7.

Seriously the absolute nonsense and BS people convince themselves of is hilarious.



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Chrkeller said:

Sounds like the Switch 2 will be as powerful as the ps6 pro, maybe ps7.

Seriously the absolute nonsense and BS people convince themselves of is hilarious.

Was waiting for you to show up and throw your predictable little child's tantrum when someone points out (with video footage) that Nintendo hardware actually isn't so bad. 

Of course a bat signal apparently goes up and you find you must rush into any thread and downplay anyone pointing out "well, no actually this is what this hardware can actually do". 



Soundwave said:
Chrkeller said:

Sounds like the Switch 2 will be as powerful as the ps6 pro, maybe ps7.

Seriously the absolute nonsense and BS people convince themselves of is hilarious.

Was waiting for you to show up and throw your predictable little child's tantrum when someone points out (with video footage) that Nintendo hardware actually isn't so bad. 

Of course a bat signal apparently goes up and you find you must rush into any thread and downplay anyone pointing out "well, no actually this is what this hardware can actually do". 

That's not official  Nintendo hardware though that's a over clocked  switch. If nintendo actually didn't allow upgrades for no reason like you state that would actually  make them look much worse and prove that they don't care about hardware lol.