By most traditional metrics (or at least the metrics Trump liked to brag about) the economy is just as strong/stronger than during the Trump years.

Unemployment Rate

2017-4.4%
2018-3.9%
2019-3.7%
2020-8.1%
2021-5.3%
2022-3.6%
2023-3.6%

Stock Market (after 41 months)

Trump-+29.9%
Biden-+30.6%

GDP Growth

2017-2.5%
2018-3.0%
2019-2.5%
2020- -2.2%
2021-5.8%
2022-1.9%
2023-2.5%

Wage Growth

2017-3.45%
2018-3.62%
2019-3.75%
2020-2.83%
2021-8.89%
2022-5.32%
2023-3.80%

Inflation Rate

2017-2.1%
2018-2.4%
2019-1.8%
2020-1.2%
2021-4.7%
2022-8.0%
2023-4.1%

Fed Interest Rate (beginning of year)

2017-0.5% to 0.75%
2018-1.25% to 1.50%
2019-2.25% to 2.50%
2020-1.50% to 1.75%
2021-1.50% to 1.75%
2022-1.50% to 1.75%
2023-4.25% to 4.50%
2024-5.25% to 5.50%

Employment, wages, GDP and the stock market have all seen better growth under Biden compared to Trump. However, inflation has eaten up most of the wage gains under Biden while wages were outpacing inflation under Trump. Also, interest rates increased significantly in order to tame inflation but that means mortgages, car loans & credit card payments are more expensive.

So, this Project 2025 thing, anyone alarmed? Lol

Terrified, which is why it would be nice if liberals had better strategy.

Most Americans think the economy is trash and violent crime has exploded.  Neither are true.  Violent crime has plummeted the last two decades.  But liberals act like we could be murdered at any moment.  An interesting fact, a bit over 50%, of gun deaths are suicides.  Talk to a normal liberal and odds are they have no idea.  Because liberals have awful messaging.  

Yeah, this might be the point. But thing is: there are always people drawn to power, and these people tried to change things, mostly in trying to paint politics as boring or removed from actual problems. In actuality politics is about things that affects people (otherwise it doesn't become politics). But if you ask people, most say that politicians need to decide stuff, because it is too complicated for normal people. Hence they assume they don't understand it and vote for someone they trust instead. And looking trustworthy is much more easily faked than looking competent. The downside is, that in result the politicians attack each other trustworthyness, so instead the struggle became about: "Vote for me, because the other guy is worse than me." Which is a sorry state of things.

He is not in the minority.    It's just not lucrative to present rational thinking as the norm... but it is and we will put this foolishness to an end and we won't be making a bunch of noise when we do it.

It varies month by month, inflation rate.
In march it was 3.4% in the US, and 2.6% in the EU.

You would need to look at it over a longer periode to make much sense of things.
America doesn't have to deal with Russian messing with gas/oil.... affecting them.
So it makes sense by that alone, that they would be doing slightly better.


I know intrest rates are much higher in the US.
Like 5-6% vs ~4% in EU.

Take a 5year look and compair:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

vs

https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/inflation-rate


You can see both "spiked" around the same time, in 2022, however EU spiked upto 11,5% while the US spiked at like 9.1%.
The US dropped its inflation slightly faster than the EU, and reached 3.5-4% and seems to have platoded.
Meanwhile the EU dropped it slowly, but its gone down lower, to 2,5-2,7% or so (and its only that high because of a few countries that arnt doing as well) (like in denmark its currently ~0.8%)

Over the same periode, I suspect both are equally poor off, from inflation.
If things keep going as they are, overtime the lower levelled off EU inflation would probably be better though.

I think the higher intrestrates in the US, probably hurt more currently as well.
If you have loans or are planning on buying a house or such.

I had to google it... to know what that even was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

"Established in 2022, the project aims to recruit tens of thousands of conservatives to the District of Columbia to replace existing federal civil servants—whom some Republicans characterize as part of the "deep state"—and to further the objectives of the next Republican president.^[4] It adopts a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory, a disputed interpretation of Article II of the Constitution of the United States,^[5][6] which asserts that the president has absolute power over the executive branch upon inauguration.^[3][7]"


It sounds like its aim is to destroy the "power checks" that keep a president from being a dictator.
Yes thats a real issue imo.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-adolf-hitler-nazi-writings-analysis/story?id=105810745

Says he has never read 'Mein Kampf, but basically quotes it word for word.

"Trump's denial that he had read Hitler's memoir came after he has made a series of incendiary remarks in recent weeks referring to his political opponents as "vermin" and saying illegal immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country.""

Theres been rumors he has the book on his night stand, by his bed... at one point.
Im not sure you can take him at his word when he goes "I've never read that".


Imo Trump is a Demagogue.


"A demagogue (/ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/; from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader),^[1] or rabble-rouser,^[2][3] is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common people against elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.^[4] Demagogues overturn established norms of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so."   - Wiki
 

And has a narcissist disorder.....    Hes crazy enough to try and take power, to rule by force if needed.

Look at what happend January 6, where his supporters riled up by him, stormed United states captial, trying to overthrow the Congress.
It was basically a failed Coup d'état (coup attempt).

If he wins fairly, I could see him dis-solving all power checks, and ruleing like a king.


I don't see why people would vote for him.
However bad the other guy might appear to you, he can't be worse than Trump.

I think people do care about messaging, but I think people care more about events. People care about the economy and abortion rights. 

A lot of people care about Ukraine and Palestine.

Which of these things will push people over.

If I were American I'd vote on whichever one stops WW3 or at least delays it/tries to prevent it. Biden to me seems like an accelerationist (or him party cause he is certainly not in control) but that's just me. Really wish you lot had more to choose from than these two gobshites another time around.

Self interest. The economy and a fear of WW3 is what'll push people over.