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Your expectations on performance...

Ridiculously below this g... 2 2.47%
 
Way below this gen: Some ... 23 28.40%
 
Slightly below this gen: ... 40 49.38%
 
On pair with this gen: AA... 16 19.75%
 
Total:81
archbrix on 14 April 2025

Comparing Switch 2 to Nintendo's "Wii-era" of thinking is a bit ridiculous.

The Wii was a 480p home console that was merely a bump-up from its predecessor's hardware with no real changes to the actual graphics architecture. The Switch 2 is a mobile device that features DLSS, a 120hz VRR screen and is a substantial jump over its predecessor. Even if Switch 2 was limited to its handheld capabilities only, it still handily outclasses the Wii in power for their respective generations, let alone what it can achieve in docked mode.

Anyone can argue that tech could've been even better but the Switch 2 demonstrates considerably more modern thinking with its hardware for 2025 than the Wii did in 2006.



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RedKingXIII on 14 April 2025
JackHandy said:

If it was just me, the toxicity wouldn't be all over the place. There wouldn't be five million threads about it. Youtube wouldn't be infested with one negative video after another. People in the comments of those videos wouldn't be acting like rabid animals. If the price of everything was the correct price, meaning what the market considered fair, you simply wouldn't hear about it outside of a few people, and you'd have to search for them, because they would be buried under a sea of optimism and excitement similar to the internet-wide vibe after the S1 was close to launch.

But that isn't happening, whether people want to acknowledge it or not. This is not a small little band of trolls. This is a real problem. And as a Nintendo fan, I am not happy about it. They are the company of my childhood. I want to see them do well. And what they've done so far... is not well.

Yes, it's impossible for a product do be successful if it's surrounded by internet bubble controversies. It has never happened before! The Switch is a flop despite it having mostly the same pricing problems and negativity as the Switch 2. Hogwarts Legacy didn't sell 20 million+ despite internet outcries for a boycott. Pokémon Sword/Shield did terribly because it had no national dex! Yes! The Switch 2 is in trouble, for sure!

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curl-6 on 14 April 2025
JackHandy said:

If it was just me, the toxicity wouldn't be all over the place. There wouldn't be five million threads about it. Youtube wouldn't be infested with one negative video after another. People in the comments of those videos wouldn't be acting like rabid animals. If the price of everything was the correct price, meaning what the market considered fair, you simply wouldn't hear about it outside of a few people, and you'd have to search for them, because they would be buried under a sea of optimism and excitement similar to the internet-wide vibe after the S1 was close to launch.

But that isn't happening, whether people want to acknowledge it or not. This is not a small little band of trolls. This is a real problem. And as a Nintendo fan, I am not happy about it. They are the company of my childhood. I want to see them do well. And what they've done so far... is not well.

That's not at all what it was like in the lead up to the Switch 1's launch; there was a ton of controversy online about it being the same price as a PS4 while being much less powerful, the games being $60 when people were used to paying $40 for "handheld" games, 1-2 Switch being "$60 shovelware" that should have been included for free, it's only big launch title being a Wii U game, very little third party support, etc.

Then, when it came out, it turned out that none of that was a deal breaker for the general audience and the system sold like crack.

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sc94597 on 14 April 2025
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

If it was just me, the toxicity wouldn't be all over the place. There wouldn't be five million threads about it. Youtube wouldn't be infested with one negative video after another. People in the comments of those videos wouldn't be acting like rabid animals. If the price of everything was the correct price, meaning what the market considered fair, you simply wouldn't hear about it outside of a few people, and you'd have to search for them, because they would be buried under a sea of optimism and excitement similar to the internet-wide vibe after the S1 was close to launch.

But that isn't happening, whether people want to acknowledge it or not. This is not a small little band of trolls. This is a real problem. And as a Nintendo fan, I am not happy about it. They are the company of my childhood. I want to see them do well. And what they've done so far... is not well.

That's not at all what it was like in the lead up to the Switch 1's launch; there was a ton of controversy online about it being the same price as a PS4 while being much less powerful, the games being $60 when people were used to paying $40 for "handheld" games, 1-2 Switch being "$60 shovelware" that should have been included for free, it's only big launch title being a Wii U game, very little third party support it, etc.

Then, when it came out, it turned out that none of that was a deal breaker for the general audience and the system sold like crack.

Just to substantiate your point, one could look at the comments on this article. Most are complaining about the price of the console and accessories, the lack of games, and predicting it would sell less than Wii U + 3DS.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/267594/why-the-nintendo-switch-may-struggle-to-sell-well/

Heck the article's conclusion/prediction is 25 million sales. 



Leynos on 15 April 2025
sc94597 said:
curl-6 said:

That's not at all what it was like in the lead up to the Switch 1's launch; there was a ton of controversy online about it being the same price as a PS4 while being much less powerful, the games being $60 when people were used to paying $40 for "handheld" games, 1-2 Switch being "$60 shovelware" that should have been included for free, it's only big launch title being a Wii U game, very little third party support it, etc.

Then, when it came out, it turned out that none of that was a deal breaker for the general audience and the system sold like crack.

Just to substantiate your point, one could look at the comments on this article. Most are complaining about the price of the console and accessories, the lack of games, and predicting it would sell less than Wii U + 3DS.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/267594/why-the-nintendo-switch-may-struggle-to-sell-well/

Heck the article's conclusion/prediction is 25 million sales. 

I've seen 50-year-old food products on the Ashens channel age better than that article.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

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EricHiggin on 15 April 2025
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

Is there a Nintendo home console I can buy instead? Because if there isn't, I have no choice but to hold it to the same standards. It's all they're offering.

Why would they make a dedicated home console when the Switch has been far more successful than any home console they've ever made, and especially more so than any of their power-competitive consoles?

That doesn't make it any less illogical to hold a hybrid/portable system to dedicated console standards when the two are fundamentally different. 

The hybrid form factor is the best path forward for them in terms of remaining successful, and within that form factor the Switch 2 is about as capable as one can reasonably ask for.

It would be nice, especially now with inflation and tariffs, if Nin at least sold a SW2, console only, no controller, for cheap.

Put the guts of the handheld and dock in a Wii sized (or smaller) shell and sell it for a reasonably cheaper price.

Let customers choose whether to buy the joycons and charger grip or go with the Pro controller instead.

I really don't see how Nin loses with a move like this for their next gen.



curl-6 on 15 April 2025
EricHiggin said:
curl-6 said:

Why would they make a dedicated home console when the Switch has been far more successful than any home console they've ever made, and especially more so than any of their power-competitive consoles?

That doesn't make it any less illogical to hold a hybrid/portable system to dedicated console standards when the two are fundamentally different. 

The hybrid form factor is the best path forward for them in terms of remaining successful, and within that form factor the Switch 2 is about as capable as one can reasonably ask for.

It would be nice, especially now with inflation and tariffs, if Nin at least sold a SW2, console only, no controller, for cheap.

Put the guts of the handheld and dock in a Wii sized (or smaller) shell and sell it for a reasonably cheaper price.

Let customers choose whether to buy the joycons and charger grip or go with the Pro controller instead.

I really don't see how Nin loses with a move like this for their next gen.

There's potentially room for a cheaper home-only version of Switch 2, and maybe we will indeed see one, but selling a console without a controller could be seen as a questionable move.



LordGustang on 15 April 2025
curl-6 said:
EricHiggin said:

It would be nice, especially now with inflation and tariffs, if Nin at least sold a SW2, console only, no controller, for cheap.

Put the guts of the handheld and dock in a Wii sized (or smaller) shell and sell it for a reasonably cheaper price.

Let customers choose whether to buy the joycons and charger grip or go with the Pro controller instead.

I really don't see how Nin loses with a move like this for their next gen.

There's potentially room for a cheaper home-only version of Switch 2, and maybe we will indeed see one, but selling a console without a controller could be seen as a questionable move.

Absolutely. I also expect the price will drop to 399 around the end of 2027, which would be a good time to release new models. A switch 2 lite that's dockable for 349 and a switch 2 home for 299 could be huge.



Zippy6 on 15 April 2025
LordGustang said:
curl-6 said:

There's potentially room for a cheaper home-only version of Switch 2, and maybe we will indeed see one, but selling a console without a controller could be seen as a questionable move.

Absolutely. I also expect the price will drop to 399 around the end of 2027, which would be a good time to release new models. A switch 2 lite that's dockable for 349 and a switch 2 home for 299 could be huge.

The Switch 1 got a price cut in the UK/EU in after 4 years, but not in the USA. Over 8 years after launch it is still $299 RRP. If they didn't cut the Switch price after all that time I really don't see the Switch 2 getting a price cut of $50 just 2.5 years after launch. Especially with the way everything is now.

PS5 and Xbox both receiving price hikes after launch (outside the USA at least). I think expecting any consoles to get price cuts anytime soon is wishful thinking. I'd honestly give it a higher chance of increasing in price in 2027 than decreasing.



EricHiggin on 15 April 2025
curl-6 said:
EricHiggin said:

It would be nice, especially now with inflation and tariffs, if Nin at least sold a SW2, console only, no controller, for cheap.

Put the guts of the handheld and dock in a Wii sized (or smaller) shell and sell it for a reasonably cheaper price.

Let customers choose whether to buy the joycons and charger grip or go with the Pro controller instead.

I really don't see how Nin loses with a move like this for their next gen.

There's potentially room for a cheaper home-only version of Switch 2, and maybe we will indeed see one, but selling a console without a controller could be seen as a questionable move.

The messaging, advertising, and box art would have to be super clear about that. Another Wii U type error would doom that SKU.

Right now for plenty, every dollar counts, so forcing them to buy the console with the joycons n grip for a higher price, and then buying a pro controller on top for those who'd much prefer it, doesn't make a lot of sense for a dedicated home console SKU, if Nin was going to offer it.

Just be crystal clear. Nin's done a very good job of communicating with SW2. The problem most have are the prices.