On top of that, this site used to at least have a selling point to make it different than Gaf/Era in its hardware/software charts.

As sales data has gotten more secretive and many companies now reporting things like revenue & engagement rather than unit sales, this sites unique features over other forums have diminished.

I always thought it was ironic that people who feed trolls complain about the trolls. Trolls don't exist without food.

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Also, lol @ Ryyu' post.  The mod team is either delusional or just unwilling to accept their biases.  

I thought Neogaf closed years ago. We used to lose members to them all the time..until we didn't anymore. It was a huge thread here about it closing. Surprised to hear it is back. Never heard of the other one and even Neogaf had a terrible format back in the day, not enjoyable at all, just had more members.

Edit: oh wow, it is actually up and running and active now, not like before, but definitely active.

I don’t think Neogaf ever shut down, it just had a ton of people leave and join Resetera.

Not sure, never heard of resetera or if I have, it never mattered to me enough to look up. I just know we had a huge influx of people at some point and everyone was saying Neogaf was dead many years ago. After we had a huge battle with them for years. Never looked back afterwards to see what had become of them.

Reddit also had a huge exodus about a year or so ago when they changed up their site, surprised nobody came here from that.

It never closed, just the population went down after everyone found out the owner was in a scandal.

ResetERA the spinoff site was made in 2018 right after majority of the site left.

I'm not sure if Reddit's was much of a exodus , but I only go there to search up specific topics lol

But ya ResetERA has been around for 6 years now.

Originally NeoGAF was more centrist in terms of there being two groups cancelling each other during conversations and the mod team was neutral most of the time.

Then when the scandal occurred and ResetERA was made - all the left leaning people to ResetERA and all the right leaning people stayed on GAF (of course people from both sides kept going back and forth between the two at times).

Anyways, the original owner (and founder) of ResetERA sold the site to some large swedish social media forum group a couple of years ago for like a million or so dollars and he isnt part of the site anymore.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/

The new owners: https://wearemoba.com/

I think one of the problems forums are facing is probably that people themselves have changed. Everything moves at a faster pace, things don't stay around for long, and that's what people seem to like and expect as well. And it's probably not just younger people, many of us 'older' people have probably also come to expect that. I think that's also somewhat related to persistence, which is something I also often see on forums: long-living threads revolving around certain subjects, but I certainly wouldn't expect to see that on most social media platforms. I guess things such as subreddits and Discord channels are reminiscent of persistent threads, but at the same time, they feel very different.

Curiously there are still some fairly active forums however. I personally use a relatively new (est. 2016) Finnish forum (I'm Finnish), and I find it quite active still. But even that's a special case: It was spawned off of its creators' previous site/forum, which... ran into an unfortunate fate, and the userbase largely followed the creators to the new site/forum. But still, the audience is there, if you can somehow grab it. I don't don't know how. Maybe you'd need a strong incentive of some sort, but that's usually easier said than done.

Ryuu mentioned coding work. I'm capable myself, but I deal with enough technical debt that I don't want any more of that if I can avoid it, and as much as I like the community here, I'm very hesitant to throw in free work for a site owner that doesn't seem to care at all about the site (especially when free time isn't something I have an abundance of). I mean, I'm thankful for the site at least existing, but other than that, not great. I think I've also seen someone else mention software development work relatively recently, but I couldn't tell you who or where exactly even if I wanted to (my memory just isn't that great). But at least there should be some technically capable people here still!

Hello. Will you please unlock the thread on the UK riots, it needs a place to be spoken about or can I start a UK and EU politics thread? The argument was between two people who brought their fight over from the US politics thread. No fault of the thread at all. Can it be unlocked or can I start a politics form that isn't devoted to the US?

the dicks didn't help

If your talking about the hacker, yeah, I'm sure that put many off,  nobody wants to be involved with all of that.

As for a total overhaul, we have done that over and over throughout the years. Game database went to gamewise, database came back and game wise closed. Vgchartz is just what it is, a sales website. I am sure as long as ioi is making money he is happy.

Overhauls just cause more confusion, people upset, the very people who have been paying the bills all these years. You all. Each click, video watches, game info added, thread added, article, etc gave this site money to keep it open.

Didn't ioi sell the site years ago actually?