Is that real? Oh fuck. XDD

Oh right, forgot about that. Murphy and Arsenio Hall both play a lot of roles in this movie.

Its not snow white, but snow brown.
its not the 7 dwarves, but the 7 magical creatures.
its no longer a story about love/sacrifice/friendship, but a story about girl empowerment, with her leading magical creatures to battle the evil step mom (a mighty witch).

What could go wrong?

meanwhile it seems like Disney is overlooking the moral of the story, for another cheap girl empowerment respin, on a classic tale.
(they have done this so much now, that its no longer a exception, but more like, its the expected thing. Like whats wrong with a classic love story?)

They also forgot their target audience is mom's/dad's and their children. Why do they pander so much to the lgbtqia+ groups and angry adults? which probably make up a very small amount of their viewers, while overlooking what made them successfull?

Dont be surprised if this is another huge flop for them, I certaintly wouldn't be.



edit:
and if they want to do a "modern" take on snow white, theres so many better ways of doing it.
It could be a girl that runs away from home, in a city.  She could be asian, her last name is white? they named her snow in their native tongue ect.
The "dwarfs" could be a street gang or something, that takes her in.
The step mom doesnt need to be a litteral witch..... just evil enough, to warrent revenge, if they wanted to go that route.
Then they could race swap, however much they liked.
The problem is their redoing the german folklore version, with the dwarfs in the woods ect, magic, and "snow white".
People that see remake, are gonna be expecting the cartoon version but not drawn, and are gonna be majorly let down.

With the current strike being on at Hollywood with the stories coming out of it, and endless amount of people saying "Hollywood has run out of ideas", maybe they haven't run out of them and just don't want to pay writers a decent wage to write new good plots hence why we getting so many rehashes atm. I mean fuck soon if they have their way it will be just AI actors making movies lol. 

TBH in the last few years I have been watching more foreign films and tv shows, then suddenly you see a Hollywood knock of here or there of it lol.

Audiences aren't willing to pay $16+ for genres that aren't "big", screenwriters haven't run out of ideas, what audiences expect has changed. Comedies and dramas are having problems. 

That said Barbie and Oppenheimer are having massive openings, so that shows people are willing to come out but I think there is a hunger to see something that is still an "event" but is not the 7th Mission: Impossible or 10th Fast & Furious or 10th live action Disney remake. Superhero movies are entering a new era where everything post Endgame is going to be up against higher standards. Spider-Verse (really good movie) is doing well but a lot of stuff that maybe would've done well 3-4 years ago like The Flash is not good enough anymore. 

It's easy to criticize studios also when you have no skin in the game, when you put your own money into a project you probably too will want to play it safe, people need to realize that too. Things change when you're putting $100+ million into any kind of an investment, it's not a crime to want something safer in that sense. 

I agree they haven't run out of ideas, the perception is they have as Hollywood is playing it safe with remakes and the strike kind of makes you wonder if writers pushing for bigger pay checks has pushed them down the remake path.

Looking back at remakes throughout time,  I don't think many succeed as nostalgia wins out.   

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory felt like they turned him into a kiddie fiddler in the remake. Pete's Dragon I am on the fence with as I liked it as a musical and I saw it when I was three and burnt a lasting impression, however the serious take in general for the remake wasn't a great movie. Movies like Total Recall, Point Break, Wicker Man, Ben-Hur, Psycho, The Shining, Ghostbusters remakes was like why bother.

12 Angry Men 50s vs 90s, they both had strong casts for their era ad both delivered in my eyes equally. Only ones I can think of that were better is probably The Mummy (90s one), Dune and IT.

I think the problem is even bigger than paying $16+ for the big genres. I honestly think post COVID a lot of people got used to watching te latest movies streaming at home, and would rather do that then go to the cinema. Also inflation hasn't helped either as even the bigger franchisers are down. The world is also slowly shifting where people prefer to watch TV show over movies too, as you get well more value out of a show even if it's one season as it will be equivalent to 3-5 movies in length and we starting to see Movie stars who thought TV was below them turn to making TV shows. I have always preferred TV shows over movies as you get a more in depth story over years of your life.

Looking at the following link:

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/?ref_=bo_nb_tt_tab

Crazy to see only 5 movies hit 500million+ and only one get over the $1bn mark

I agree post end game there has been a shift. Lot of Marvel fans (personal opinion here) I feel are bitching too much about it when I think most the Marvel movies post End Game have been good, so I guess you are right they looking for a new high as End Game was mind blowing. The only one I felt that was weird was the last Thor movie Love and Thunder. It wasn't bad it was just that I think they went too much into comedy mode. Almost every scene felt comical, which I don't mind but it didn't fit the previous movies hence why it was weird and out of place for me.

Now back to the website list for 2023, a lot of those deserved better box office revenue, I am shocked to see them low and it makes you wonder what is the cause. Surely inflation isn't that bad that people are giving up even on the big blockbusters.

Guardian 3 was great, surprised that hasn't cracked 1bn already, it may get there in the end. Probably a better movie then number 2.

Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, was the first one I saw in animation style, as I am one of those stubborn people if a live action was first I don't like animated versions, and if an animation was first I don't like live action versions. I went with a friend who likes them. I will say damn this was great, it was amazing how they managed to combine the various styles so smoothly in the movie. I am now a converted fan and will continue to watch the animated versions. Shameik Moore has also brought Miles to life with his voice acting and that last half hour of the movie was great and how his words basically set the tone for the next movie.

The Flash I agree was also great, finally WB caught up to what Marvel movies have delivered but significantly underperformed, now was that because of the actor's real world dramas or because like you said people want a higher bar or a bit of both.

Creed 3, I know it's a small franchise but wish it it got move popular as they do stand on their own against Rocky.

John Wick 4, was great but another less popular genre. It will probably be one of those franchises that 10-20 years after the final movie will become a cult classic series and more popular.

Mission Impossible, I know its like the 7th, but the last two have been a big improvement over 3-4, plus the success of Maverick, I thought this would do better.

Indy well who knows, the previous movie was just way to out there and this one took so long to come out, has the spark finally died in this franchise?

Dungeons & Dragons highly underrated I wish it did better. 

Finally a bit worrying that Titanic 25th Anniversary is doing better then new movies lol.

Look at the reaction to Barbie. A female is playing a character has always been female. No race swap/gender swap/etc.

Yet the usual suspects still have a problem with it and are whining about it being woke, a term they still cannot define.

That's the thing about it, and why this topic really needn't be taken seriously. Because it has nothing to do with anything political, or whatever you want to call it. What it is is that there's a group that has, up till about 30 years ago, been exclusively catered to. Now that the universe is not revolving around them anymore, they are throwing a tantrum. They are using raceswapping as a trojan horse because it's an argument that makes intuitive sense, although not if you put any thought into it, but that's not remotely the issue. The issue is that they're not the only ones who matter anymore. And if there is any big scale project that is not catering to them, they'll find a problem. 

Well this was an interesting read:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/07/21/barbie-largely-praised-for-feminist-themes-but-draws-anger-from-the-anti-woke/?sh=fd6adf758bdd

From woke to communist lol.

Honestly barbie is a fricken toy doll, who has 1000s of appearances in the collection. Not sure what they expected from it. Was never going to be a mind blowing drama that keeps you on the edge of your seat trying to solve the mystery.

The issue is society in general complains about everything these days, I don't think it's just a race trojan. Look at the Brendon Frasier Oscar winning performance. People complained he has a fat suit. I was just happy he finally got mentally better in his life that he was up to make another movie again. To be honest post COVID people have just become even bigger assholes (think of any word stronger you want here that describes it), especially online behind a keyboard towards others. Atheists and media attacking religious people for their beliefs, except Islam as they fear being beheaded or blown up. Anti Vaxxers attacking people's families who had loved ones die during COVID. Environmentalists being distractive to private property or gluing themselves to road to fuck up everyone's work day. People that don't want to work attacking people that work saying they are too rich and want handouts. The whole world has gone mad in general with everything 

In terms of Movies/TV, Chrkeller and Mnementh touched on the issue already and explained it well.

Here are two examples that demonstrate this well. Charmed reboot, about witches, fantasy show, but straight into politics with the metoo movement. Why did they need to go there basically in the first few episodes when the show is about witches and magic and we are yet to learn who these people are. The Rookie, establishes itself first, well written, then every now and then they add a political agenda that reflects the real world, like police brutality, racism etc. They write it in such a way that is part of the show, not just slap a black and white verdict on it. They make you think about the topic.

Instead of pandering to the angry adults, they should pander to other angry adults.

When is the last time you've seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarves? I have rewatched it recently because I love it, and it is a stunning achievement in animation. As a narrative it sucks.

What's wrong with a classic lovestory is that in this case, the love story is terrible. They literally meet once, and she's 14. Then he like finds her later and kisses her and she goes to live with him forever. That's literally all there is to it.

In general, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is just an awful story. It was the first full length cartoon, and they were figuring it out. A solid 50% or more of the movie is them stringing together classic Mickey Mouse style cartoon vignettes with the dwarves, and I'm sorry, modern audiences aren't going to want to watch a full five minute segment of the Dwarves getting washed up for supper.

I'm sorry you object to the protagonist of the story having agency and presumably a character arc. If you want to watch a movie about a girl who does housework while waiting for dick from a dude she met that one time, that movie exists on Disney + so knock yourself out. Hopefully, we're better storytellers close to 100 years later. They could not have redone Snow White as it was, and it needed major changes. Who knows if the changes they make will work, but I'm pretty sure it'll be better than a gang taking in a young girl. But, feel free to pitch your version to Brazzers.

P.S. Yeah, kind of weird for a character named Snow White to not be super pale, but aside from thinking for a moment "huh, that's kind of odd" it's really not going to impact my enjoyment of the film.

P.P.S. It's nice that you're so concerned with the incredibly stupid people among us, but the internet is a thing that exists. People can very easily do a Google search, check a review, and see how faithful this will be to the original. If they do not know what to expect, they have themselves to blame.

P.P.P.S. I have absolutely no idea how this has anything to to with the LBGT+ community. But, this was a film about 7 dudes living in the woods along together. Snow White's been a pretty gay movie since since the 30s. 

It's a trojan, because as I've explained, in similar circumstances this is something that consistently happens. That is why I brought up Barbie as an example, but there are others, i.e. She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel, the Eternals, etc. This frequently happens with major female lead projects, regardless of whether or not they have replaced a male character or whatever. And, there are plenty of changes they could make that draw no objections, such as changing height, age, body type, back story, hair color, eye color, etc. 

So, you got to cut through the bullshit. They object when a character's gender/race/sexual orientation is changed. But other changes are fine and dandy. And they frequently object to characters with those kinds of leads even if there was no change taken place (i.e. Barbie, She-Hulk,  Marvel, Ms. Marvel, Eternals, Jon Kent, etc.) When you look at the pattern, it becomes pretty clear that the change is not the issue.

On the other hand, people have consistently had issues with fat suits being used, and the people criticizing that seem to really only have an issue in that particular circumstance. I think they are wrong to criticize here as it was not used in a demeaning way, and it would be morally irresponsible to incentivize an actor to intentionally remain morbidly obese for any period of time, but I think their concern was pretty genuine. If they weren't objecting honestly to the fat suit, what was their issue?