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Radek said:

I want to get into Persona but I'm so dumb when it comes to learning turn-based games, and I don't know if my English is good enough to understand everything :(

They have a great slew of difficulty options. Safety mode is there for ease as well, which I believe makes it so you revive if you die. Game sets the pace nicely as well and introduces the mechanics well enough that as long as you have a few types of personas to cover magic, and physical, you should be ok even on easy difficulty. 

P5 is even more accessible with the day to day events which can feel overwhelming. 

Fusions as well have been streamlined in recent memory especially with Soul Hackers 2, which I'm hoping is a big change made from Persona Portable. 

Very worth playing if you are a fan of Japanese role playing games with sim and great story as well. 



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Radek said:

I want to get into Persona but I'm so dumb when it comes to learning turn-based games, and I don't know if my English is good enough to understand everything :(

I was a bit worried when I first played a Persona game back in 2011 (Persona 1 Portable was my first experience) and SMT first time back in 2017 (SMTIV was my first SMT game) - after playing through them for a few hours, I understood the mechanics and gameplay.

Now both series are two of my most favorite RPG series - next to Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts of course.

You should try it out - the games these days like Spade mentioned have a lot of options to make it a smooth and easy experience - moreso than in the past versions.



gtotheunit91 said:
twintail said:

Well if we're talking strictly embargoing the full platform suite for games they have announced at their events, I personally don't actually recall them ever having this clause.

I believe MS has done this for the last few years: this isn't new. 

Which makes the "criticism" all the more childish and whinier if anything.

Games at these showcases don't release for months, if not years, and a 48 hour embargo is going to change anything? This is just a news embargo ffs lol

But psychologically it does, otherwise companies wouldn't be making marketing deals in the first place, and MS wouldn't pay to delay the news of platform releases outside of their own.

This is all about brand association: most ppl aren't keeping themselves glued to the net for constant gaming news updates. The longer MS can delay that something like P3R is releasing outside of Xbox, the more association they create with the game among consumers. And I think there's an argument to be made that it's deceitful and calling that 'childish' ignores what this sort of clause does.

But it makes sense for MS to do this, regardless if one should be critical of it or not, because ultimately they're the ones trying to attract more 3rd party sales to their platform. This in turn can be used as data to convince more publishers to release on Xbox.



twintail said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Which makes the "criticism" all the more childish and whinier if anything.

Games at these showcases don't release for months, if not years, and a 48 hour embargo is going to change anything? This is just a news embargo ffs lol

But psychologically it does, otherwise companies wouldn't be making marketing deals in the first place, and MS wouldn't pay to delay the news of platform releases outside of their own.

This is all about brand association: most ppl aren't keeping themselves glued to the net for constant gaming news updates. The longer MS can delay that something like P3R is releasing outside of Xbox, the more association they create with the game among consumers. And I think there's an argument to be made that it's deceitful and calling that 'childish' ignores what this sort of clause does.

But it makes sense for MS to do this, regardless if one should be critical of it or not, because ultimately they're the ones trying to attract more 3rd party sales to their platform. This in turn can be used as data to convince more publishers to release on Xbox.

What scenario are you even worried about here? You make it sound as if there are people out there who are still stuck on PS3, waiting for a new Persona game to finally go and buy a new system, and will somehow now choose Xbox because they're too dumb to do any basic research in the months between release.

What else? You think there are PS fans of Persona who will somehow miss that a new Persona is releasing on their system, with all the numerous ways these modern machines throw advertising around our home screens?



Shaunodon said:
twintail said:

But psychologically it does, otherwise companies wouldn't be making marketing deals in the first place, and MS wouldn't pay to delay the news of platform releases outside of their own.

This is all about brand association: most ppl aren't keeping themselves glued to the net for constant gaming news updates. The longer MS can delay that something like P3R is releasing outside of Xbox, the more association they create with the game among consumers. And I think there's an argument to be made that it's deceitful and calling that 'childish' ignores what this sort of clause does.

But it makes sense for MS to do this, regardless if one should be critical of it or not, because ultimately they're the ones trying to attract more 3rd party sales to their platform. This in turn can be used as data to convince more publishers to release on Xbox.

What scenario are you even worried about here? You make it sound as if there are people out there who are still stuck on PS3, waiting for a new Persona game to finally go and buy a new system, and will somehow now choose Xbox because they're too dumb to do any basic research in the months between release.

What else? You think there are PS fans of Persona who will somehow miss that a new Persona is releasing on their system, with all the numerous ways these modern machines throw advertising around our home screens?

I'm not worried about anything lol

Though, I'm not sure what to say about the ridiculous straw man you presented here. 



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twintail said:
Shaunodon said:

What scenario are you even worried about here? You make it sound as if there are people out there who are still stuck on PS3, waiting for a new Persona game to finally go and buy a new system, and will somehow now choose Xbox because they're too dumb to do any basic research in the months between release.

What else? You think there are PS fans of Persona who will somehow miss that a new Persona is releasing on their system, with all the numerous ways these modern machines throw advertising around our home screens?

I'm not worried about anything lol

Though, I'm not sure what to say about the ridiculous straw man you presented here. 

If you're not worried about anything then what the hell are you even complaining about? If there's no real problem here then on what grounds should we be criticising Xbox for? You say there's a legitimate argument to be made, so where exactly is the cause for concern?

You want to defend people whining over absolutely nothing, yet somehow my comment is ridiculous.



Shaunodon said:
twintail said:

I'm not worried about anything lol

Though, I'm not sure what to say about the ridiculous straw man you presented here. 

If you're not worried about anything then what the hell are you even complaining about? If there's no real problem here then on what grounds should we be criticising Xbox for? You say there's a legitimate argument to be made, so where exactly is the cause for concern?

You want to defend people whining over absolutely nothing, yet somehow my comment is ridiculous.

Your comment was ridiculous, because you know very well what I meant yet decided to extrapolate it to an exaggerated degree.

Like I said, I'm not complaining about anything. You deciding that I am doesn't make it true. I'm not defending the criticism, because like I very clearly stated in my comment you replied to: 'it makes sense for MS to do this'. MS has done this before and it's not like it helped them then. If that is what they want to spend their marketing money on it then so be it.

But there's also no need to call the criticism 'childish' just because you disagreed with it (yes I know it wasn't you who said that), which is why I responded in the first place. 

Now onto more pressing matters, but I wish the thread title could be simplified somehow haha



twintail said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Which makes the "criticism" all the more childish and whinier if anything.

Games at these showcases don't release for months, if not years, and a 48 hour embargo is going to change anything? This is just a news embargo ffs lol

But psychologically it does, otherwise companies wouldn't be making marketing deals in the first place, and MS wouldn't pay to delay the news of platform releases outside of their own.

This is all about brand association: most ppl aren't keeping themselves glued to the net for constant gaming news updates. The longer MS can delay that something like P3R is releasing outside of Xbox, the more association they create with the game among consumers. And I think there's an argument to be made that it's deceitful and calling that 'childish' ignores what this sort of clause does.

But it makes sense for MS to do this, regardless if one should be critical of it or not, because ultimately they're the ones trying to attract more 3rd party sales to their platform. This in turn can be used as data to convince more publishers to release on Xbox.

Fair enough, but I will honestly continue to see this a non-issue as this is mere peanuts compared to the many full marketing deals Sony is able to get. 48 hour embargos on a showcase that occurs once a year, compared to multiple outright marketing rights every year is a night/day difference. 

Whatever business deals these companies agree to is all fair game. Like many say when it comes to defending third-party exclusivity deals of any sort, Atlus and these other multiplat companies that were at the Xbox showcase, agreed to this timed embargo. 



You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind

twintail said:

Now onto more pressing matters, but I wish the thread title could be simplified somehow haha

Modified thread title so its shorter lol



BasilZero said:
twintail said:

Now onto more pressing matters, but I wish the thread title could be simplified somehow haha

Modified thread title so its shorter lol

And the game's name is still wrong. Reload, not Reloaded.