Nintendo and Sony aren't competing for the same market so only a very big screwup would transfer customer from one to another, and I don't see either doing it.

Which other company ties DLC to amiibo or hold launch price of SW for 5 years or won't give price cut after 6 years for the HW? This standard business practices must be from fictitious companies right? Limited editions with fake shortages also I don't remember any competitor doing it, poor quality on main entries also don't remember Sony doing it and even Halo and other hiccups MS had weren't nearly as bad as Pokemon...

I disagree. Plus I am not saying have zero competition I have been saying 2 is enough in the console space. If Sony want to screw over people than people will flock to Nintendo, if Nintendo screw over their fans, they will flock to PS. 3rd wheel has proven time and time again that they drop out and are replaced by a new brand trying to make a dent. Its constantly happened.  

I disagree. Plus I am not saying have zero competition I have been saying 2 is enough in the console space. If Sony want to screw over people than people will flock to Nintendo, if Nintendo screw over their fans, they will flock to PS. 3rd wheel has proven time and time again that they drop out and are replaced by a new brand trying to make a dent. Its constantly happened.  

You are the second person to say Steam benefited from competition without stating what? What did EGS bring to PC gaming that made Steam better to compete?

Example: Steam is free, and with competition could be the reason Steam starts charging their customers. People are blinded in thinking competition is only a good thing. Its not.

Example: Steam is free, and with competition could be the reason Steam starts charging their customers. People are blinded in thinking competition is only a good thing. Its not.

1) Will wait and see with the Hardware. All we know their next Console could be nothing more than a Dongle. 

2) Sega was competing with Sony and Nintendo. Sony had the 3rd Party, Nintendo had the 1st Party, Sega stood no chance. 

3) Tell me, How has Steam evolved when Competition was added like UPlay, EA Play, GoG and EGS? I understand Steam had Competition to get to number 1, but now they are number 1, competition has zero affect on Steams operations and innovations.

4) If Sony rejects, Nintendo will accept. Nintendo would Glady have Elder Scrolls 6 to increase Hardware and software sales. What many don't understand is that Sony will take a cut of Xbox profits with game sales and Subs. Every digital game Xbox sells on PS will add more revenue to PS. More games = more profits. Steam is a great example of this.

5) Companies have been making games for both platforms, this is normal. I am sure they will have no issue porting old games to PS. Doesn't have to be the whole library either. Also GP games can be streamed on PS. Otherwise all new games will be developed on PS moving forward.

6) Valve and MS have allowed people running GP on the Steamdeck. Valve isn't exactly trying to block GP from working.

7) MS will make more billions when they spread GP and Games across all platforms.

I disagree. Plus I am not saying have zero competition I have been saying 2 is enough in the console space. If Sony want to screw over people than people will flock to Nintendo, if Nintendo screw over their fans, they will flock to PS.

Due to the extremely different hardware specs between Switch & PS5, they aren't interchangeble either for developers or for customers.

Example: Steam is free, and with competition could be the reason Steam starts charging their customers. People are blinded in thinking competition is only a good thing. Its not.

It would make much more sense if Steam would start charging their customers without competition.

Competition has worsened the industry. Why do you think you are paying for online? It was due to competition. 

No it wasn't! It was/is due to the lack of competition within these closed platforms. Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo aren't allowing other stores or online services on their console platforms which could offer better conditions.

Your points are laughably bad.

Now you are projecting.

1) The fact you are saying Amiibos are a bad thing, shows you have no idea. Thats the point of Amibos and plenty of people love collecting them. Maybe not your cup of tea but they aren't made for you. They are great little collector figures with cool in game incentives. I like them.

2) Switch also hasn't increased the price from my memory while your Sony and Xbox competition has. 

3) What fake shortages? what are you talking about.

4) Nintendo just released one of the best games ever made 1 week ago. The quality at Nintendo is doing quite good. Pokemon is your only example? So I guess you aren't going to bring up Days Gone and TLOU1 PC? All companies dish up crap once in a while. Zero to do with competition. 

Also this is all happening with competition so again, your point is invalid to this conversation. If Xbox left and quality games fell, then you have a point, but quality of games have been up and down since the beginning of the gaming industry, with or without competition. 

Amiibos are horrible, I don’t care if people like collecting them. If people like collecting them, then just make them collectible toys, don’t tie in game content to them. Most of what Don said about Nintendo is correct, and should serve to show us what can happen if a company is unchallenged in their market.

What the OP is seeking is an industry where Sony is unchallenged in their market like Nintendo isn’t challenged in theirs. I’ll pass on that, thanks.

Except they probably won't. Nintendo and Sony/MS make very different kinds of games. 

EGS pushed Steam to cut how much they get from developers. It benefitted developers. 

This is a strange hypothetical, and I have no idea how competition could lead Valve to doing so.  

1) My point was DLC that demanded you having an Amiibo, not amiibo itself.

Amiibos is optional and the DLC wouldn't be made if the Amiibos weren't a thing. You don't like it, i don't mind it. 

2) So you will ignore the SW never getting a price cut? Sony didn't increase the price of HW, they correct the price due to currency change, and Nintendo even after all this time not only didn't cut price but had the OLED model launching more expensive than the original Switch.

PS4 never saw Price cuts either, and it has a direct competitor with Xbox. Also Nintendo never drop their first party game prices, even back in the old days of Nintendo vs Sega, their direct competitor. 

3) You never heard about the Mario All Stars limited run to force fake shortage?

No idea about this shortage issue. The Mario All Stars was a limited edition run. You know what Limited edition run means? It means they arent making many of them and they will stop selling them at a set date. Its what we call a collectors items.

4) Days gone isn't a staple of Sony (Pokemon is for Nintendo), but if you want a list of poorly reviewed Nintendo exclusives the list is quite extensive. But hardly any other company get poor releases that get blessed with 10-20M sales and record breaking.

Nintendo is one of the most consistent companies when it comes to making quality games. Look up the best games ever made and you will see a bunch of Nintendo games, which they continue to add to this day. Software lacking in qulaity has zero to do with competition. 

Your point was that Nintendo was just copying competitors while I pointed to you things that are very Nintendo specific but you are trying to spin it just to say NINTENDO NEVER, EVER took advantage of customer pockets (then when you couldn't deny just gone to a "the others do it to", even for things no one else done).

What Nintendo do now is what they have been doing for decades. You know why Nintendo charge for Online? Its because the competition does it. You know why Digital media and Streaming continue to be pushed, because competition does it. Everything people complain about is because of competition.

I have been playing on Nintendo since the NES and they continue to do exactly what i expect them to do. I am not complaining with their business practices and i hope they never change. Tough luck if you dislike Nintendo.

No. There is literally no evidence to suggest that.

We have no evidence their next console is another traditonal console either.

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Pemalite said:

No.

The Nintendo 64 failed to set the world on fire... And the Gamecube (Sega's Dreamcast Competitor) hadn't even launched when Sega dropped out of the console hardware market.

Sega LITERALLY only had SONY as competition.

Have you even been reading the posts?

False, Nintendo was still in the market basically taking whatever leftovers were left that didn't jump on the PS bandwagon, meaning the industry was spread too thin for the 3rd company to stay relevant. Sega could not compete with the Deals Sony were making and even Nintendo struggled to compete at the time. One had to go.

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Pemalite said:

1) Discord has provided Steam competition and Steam has started to adopt Discord-like social features.

2) Valve adjusted it's revenue splits, giving more cash back to developers thanks to Epic stores favoured splits providing heat.

3) Epic Game Stores game review system is superior and Valve is working on it's own system to better it.

4) Steam big Picture mode was thanks to competition from other clients like Pegasus, Gamehub and more, to enable a UI for games with controllers/TV's.

I can keep going on, but you get the gist.

Right now competitions MAIN benefit is more revenue for developers. (Thanks Epic Game Store!)

...And that alone means you are flat-out wrong on this point.

1) Discord is not a direct competitor to Steam, they aren't even the same thing. Also there is nothing wrong with companies taking ideas and improving upon themselves.

2) Who cares about revenue splits? Customers? No. What customers care for is a valued and safe eco-system. I can argue that by Valve taking in less money means less returned investment back into Steam. So no. Revenue splits only benefit one side, does not benefit everyone.

3) Literally very little care.

4) Very little use it. 

These added features mean little and wont be missed or are changing the industry. SO no, i wont thank EGS for trying to divide my PC library, removing games from the Steam store to sell on their own trash heap unfinished App.

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Pemalite said:

Sony and Nintendo are independent and may refuse to agree, or may even agree to agree.

To blatantly assert that if Sony will reject something that will mean that Nintendo will accept something... Is blatantly false.

This is just your own hypothesis and not based on what these companies will do.

Thats up to the companies to make deals to suit. At the end of the day, MS have bangers that i no doubt would say Sony and Nintendo want. Its a safe assumption.

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Pemalite said:

Technically you can stream gamepass games to a Windows 98 PC if you can get a modern browser environment via a hacked kernel.

But you are ignoring the part that games that are streamed have to be ported to the servers hardware, are you even reading my posts?

So be it, you dont think a Trillion dollar company is capable? 

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Pemalite said:

Valve has allowed people to modify the Steamdecks software and hardware environment to any extent they desire.

Gamepass is not a native Steamdeck App.

And they have nothing against those installing Windows and using GP on their own Hardware.

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Pemalite said:

That is the general goal. - But isn't their userbase growth starting to slow? They need more consoles to sell more subscriptions.

Until they start releasing new games, its a no brainer its slowed down.

Simple, dont collect them. They are making content for the Amiibos. If the Amiibos didn't exist, neither would the extra content. I like them and so do many other people.

How did EGS benefit me, a Steam user? Valve never budged with EGS's Cut which from memory was 12%. Steam still takes 30% to this day (Depending on sales). So no EGS entering did not benefit anyone, it only made things complicated and worse for the customers. Stealing games from Steam, weeks before launching, dividing the player base and confusing PC gamers on where they can play their games.