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twintail 5 hours ago
Kyuu said:
twintail said:

If the Concord situation is making them re-evaluate live service games with a closer eye, then I think that is warranted. At most, BluePoint has spent 2 years on their game (probably less), and Bend 2.5 years. You bring up Shu, who in the same interview claimed that tons of projects are cancelled all the time at various points in development. It is what it is, I suppose.

The porting issue is probably a lot more involved. No GT7 is obvious: Polyphony want to do it themselves. Why no Demon's is strange though.

Cancelled projects typically stop development at early stages, otherwise they're failures that justify criticisms. Demon's Souls Remake released over 4 years ago, so I don't find it believable that Bluepoint were working on the live service GoW for less than two years unless they had their main team working since 2021 on an unannounced project. If the entire team was busy assisting in Ragnarok development, then I'm happy to include them and Santa Monica to my list of inefficient developers. Ragnarok is a safe and unambitious PS4 sequel that took 5 whole years to make. It didn't need all of Bluepoint's resources.

A GT7 PC port is worth Polyphony Digital's involvement. With Nixxes's help, it shouldn't be much of a challenge. Bloodborne and Demon's Souls ports are much less work and easy money, but everything else is being prioritized over them.

GOWR was announced in Sept 2020 for a 2021 release (having begun development after 2018 released), which is a whole 2 months before Demon's Souls released. 

if BluePoint were going to make their own original content and were doing so with GoW, it makes sense that they used their work on GoWR as a form of onboarding. I think it's pretty obvious that GoWR would've served as the core structure for the live service title, so whatever they did on GoWR funnels into their own live service game. Whether they had their whole team working on GoWR is irrelevant then. 

And it doesn't matter if GoWR is a safe sequel. It's also a massive jump in terms of scope over 2018 in every single way. Games like this take a lot of people to make, well beyond the studio size of Santa Monica themselves.

And yeah of course a GT7 PC port is worth it. My point is that Polyphony being Polyphony means that they most likely want ownership over it. They're one studio which Sonny just let's do what they want probably because of Kazunori himself. 

And I don't think Nixxies have the bandwidth. They work closely with Insomniac and Wolverine will most definitely be an upcoming project. They did GoT, so they'll most likely be doing GoY as well.

They did the porting for both Horizon titles and were the ones responsible for the new Horizon remaster for PS5/ PC. They are obviously going to port Horizon 3, and they are obviously working alongside Guerilla on the upcoming Horizon MP game (probably also in a content creation capacity outside of doing the PC port). 

They are also doing TloU2 Remastered this year. But I do wholeheartedly agree that GT7 and Demon's should both be on PC, especially the latter. But porting isn't just a flick of a button and clearly it made more sense for Nixxies, at the time, to work with Insomniac and Guerilla since those would be long-term relationships.