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the-pi-guy said:
Chrkeller said:

I can only speak myself, but the lack of open debate on both sides is why I quit contributing.  I hear one side talking about how bad the GoP is, but yet they can't beat the GoP, which means what about their side?  

I mean imagine team A talking about how bad team B is, but team B wins by 30 points, lol.  

My view hasn't really changed in a number of years; the Democrat's platform isn't as popular as people think it is.  But meh, whatever.  

Dems broadly have a lot of issues. Terrible at messaging. Still have corporate influences like Republicans, even if it's not quite as brazen. Way more divided than Republicans seem to be - like how some Republicans can call Trump Hitler, but then start voting in sync with him when he's elected.  

A lot of the issues Democrats have with messaging say more about the voter base than they do the Democrats.

George Wallace actually went into his political career as a Southern moderate. Black people who knew him before he became the governor of Alabama would talk about how Wallace was one of the few white men who would address them by their name or as "sir" rather than "boy." 

George Wallace's first run for governor of Alabama was in 1958. He ran on a platform of good schools, good roads, and improving the lives of Alabamians. His main opponent, John Patterson, ran on racial politics and use of the N-word and fought against the desegregation order in Brown v. Board of Education. Wallace lost the 1958 primary to Patterson by 35,000 votes, and Patterson went on to become governor of Alabama from 1959-1963

"You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about n*****s, and they stomped the floor." - George Wallace, on why he began using racist messaging in his 1962 campaign to become governor.

George Wallace won the 1962 election, was governor of Alabama from 1963-1967. His 1963 inaugural address included the famous phrase "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." Since Alabama did not allow a person to serve as a governor for consecutive terms, his wife, Lurleen Wallace (whose cancer diagnosis was concealed from her at Wallace's orders) served the following term, where she basically acted as her husband's proxy governor. Wallace then served as governor for much of the next 20 years and ran for president as an independent in 1968 with Curtis LeMay. His presidential campaign was fueled entirely on racial hatred and anger at Johnson over signing the Civil Rights Act He won Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia, for a total of 46 electoral votes, making him the second most successful third party candidate of the 20th century, after Teddy Roosevelt of the Bull Moose Party. 

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Five (and counting) of the nine acts originally scheduled to perform at the Freedom 250 concerts have now pulled out.

- Young MC
- Fabrice Morvan (Milli Vanilli)
- Morris Day and the Time
- The Commodores
- Martina McBride, who has spent her entire career as an advocate for DV victims, is the latest to withdraw. In her statement, she said that she had accepted the invitation because she thought it would be a non-partisan event celebrating the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Instead, it's apparently just a MAGA/Trump rally on steroids.

So that only leaves Vanilla Ice, Bret Michaels, Flo Rida, and C+C Music Factory as performers. I guess they'll have to bring out Kid Rock and Ted Nugent again.

EDIT: It looks like C+C Music Factory are backing out now.

EDIT 2: Michaels just announced he's pulling out. Now it's just Flo Rida and Vanilla Ice.

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