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BFR said:
Machiavellian said:

LOl, a one and done thing.  I am sure Iran think of it different.  Its not like they could respond or anything, since going to war with the US would be a complete stupid move.  Its not like Trump would do that to Russia or China now is there.  Its not like Trump would just blow up boats from China or Russia in international waters and say we are stopping drugs coming from there into the US. 

Lol, murder is still murder without any due process or evidence no matter how you attempt to dismiss it.  I am sure you were the same way with Israel when they just bombed anything and everything that moved whether there were Hamas in the region or not.  Right, all you have to do is declare they are terrorist or war and you get free reign to kill at will and while he hasn't invaded yet, he and his administration isn't being shy they have the right to kill at will.

Mach, you just don't get it.

I feel sorry for you, hell I fell sorry for every Mod and User on the VGC forum.

Let me elaborate....Russia has THOUSANDS of nukes.

China has THOUSANDS of nukes.

And Iran and Venezuela have NO NUKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, Greenland doesn't have any nukes.

Do you hear me?

Lol, you feel sorry for me, thanks, I feel all better now knowing you care.

Personally, I have absolutely no clue what you are implying in this response.  Its as if you totally did not understand the concept of what I stated. I did not believe it was all that complex but I guess it just went over your head.



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Machiavellian said:
BFR said:

Despite all the war-mongering that people accuse Trump of, he has yet to start a war. Yes, he attacked Iran, but that was a one and done thing.

He hasn't invaded Venezuela. He hasn't invaded Greenland. He hasn't invaded anyone. (yet!)

LOl, a one and done thing.  I am sure Iran think of it different.  Its not like they could respond or anything, since going to war with the US would be a complete stupid move.  Its not like Trump would do that to Russia or China now is there.  Its not like Trump would just blow up boats from China or Russia in international waters and say we are stopping drugs coming from there into the US. 

Lol, murder is still murder without any due process or evidence no matter how you attempt to dismiss it.  I am sure you were the same way with Israel when they just bombed anything and everything that moved whether there were Hamas in the region or not.  Right, all you have to do is declare they are terrorist or war and you get free reign to kill at will and while he hasn't invaded yet, he and his administration isn't being shy they have the right to kill at will.

This is what you said.  I said Trump won't do that because both countries have thousands of nukes.

If you don't understand my reasoning, then you just don't get it.



BFR said:
Machiavellian said:

LOl, a one and done thing.  I am sure Iran think of it different.  Its not like they could respond or anything, since going to war with the US would be a complete stupid move.  Its not like Trump would do that to Russia or China now is there.  Its not like Trump would just blow up boats from China or Russia in international waters and say we are stopping drugs coming from there into the US. 

Lol, murder is still murder without any due process or evidence no matter how you attempt to dismiss it.  I am sure you were the same way with Israel when they just bombed anything and everything that moved whether there were Hamas in the region or not.  Right, all you have to do is declare they are terrorist or war and you get free reign to kill at will and while he hasn't invaded yet, he and his administration isn't being shy they have the right to kill at will.

This is what you said.  I said Trump won't do that because both countries have thousands of nukes.

If you don't understand my reasoning, then you just don't get it.

That's wasn't the question, that was a statement. You're mansplaining his supporting statement, ignoring the actual content of his reply.

Trump has started wars. Bombing Iran and blowing up fishing boats from another country are acts of war. Nvm the continued support and cover Trump provides to Israel committing genocide (It's not a peace plan, not even a ceasefire, only a lower 'official' daily death count to get his Abraham accords back on the agenda for MBS). While getting big deals with UAE who are supporting genocide in Sudan.

If China would move its military off the coast of LA and started blowing fishing boats out of the war, would you consider that an act of war?



BFR said:
Machiavellian said:

LOl, a one and done thing.  I am sure Iran think of it different.  Its not like they could respond or anything, since going to war with the US would be a complete stupid move.  Its not like Trump would do that to Russia or China now is there.  Its not like Trump would just blow up boats from China or Russia in international waters and say we are stopping drugs coming from there into the US. 

Lol, murder is still murder without any due process or evidence no matter how you attempt to dismiss it.  I am sure you were the same way with Israel when they just bombed anything and everything that moved whether there were Hamas in the region or not.  Right, all you have to do is declare they are terrorist or war and you get free reign to kill at will and while he hasn't invaded yet, he and his administration isn't being shy they have the right to kill at will.

This is what you said.  I said Trump won't do that because both countries have thousands of nukes.

If you don't understand my reasoning, then you just don't get it.

Duh!! If that wasn't obvious by my statement that you felt the need to respond the way you did, its very evident it was too complex for you to comprehend what I was saying.  So let me break this down and make it very clear.  The reason we feel we can commit murder without due process against a country that does not have the military might to respond in kind just like Iran, is because we have the military might to wipe them off the planet.  The key issue here is that we would not do so if that country also had the ability to respond in kind to seriously hurt or harm the US.  

Your initial statement suggest that people should not believe Trump aggression because he has not invaded Greenland or Annexed Canada.  What is the difference between the 2 situations.  One is that its way more complex to just Annex Canada or even Greenland compared to military might within south America which the US has a very long history of doing. 

So targeting and destroying only Venezuela boats and threating the President of the country would not be considered an act of war.  Dropping bombs on Iran if Iran could respond with bombs of their own would not be considered an act of war either.  Just because the other nation cannot respond to US aggression doesn't mean its would not have lead to war if that nation could respond in kind.



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Most illegal weapons seized in Canada have an U.S origin. Should Canada drone strike some boats, trucks and cars in USA now before they can reach Canada? I mean, if that is considered the right way to end it?



crissindahouse said:

Most illegal weapons seized in Canada have an U.S origin. Should Canada drone strike some boats, trucks and cars in USA now before they can reach Canada? I mean, if that is considered the right way to end it?

Same with Mexico. Most illegal weapons there come from the U.S. 

The U.S. doesn’t have a drug problem so much as Mexico has an illegal gun problem fueled by American money and guns.



Machiavellian said:
BFR said:

This is what you said.  I said Trump won't do that because both countries have thousands of nukes.

If you don't understand my reasoning, then you just don't get it.

Duh!! If that wasn't obvious by my statement that you felt the need to respond the way you did, its very evident it was too complex for you to comprehend what I was saying.  So let me break this down and make it very clear.  The reason we feel we can commit murder without due process against a country that does not have the military might to respond in kind just like Iran, is because we have the military might to wipe them off the planet.  The key issue here is that we would not do so if that country also had the ability to respond in kind to seriously hurt or harm the US.  

Your initial statement suggest that people should not believe Trump aggression because he has not invaded Greenland or Annexed Canada.  What is the difference between the 2 situations.  One is that its way more complex to just Annex Canada or even Greenland compared to military might within south America which the US has a very long history of doing. 

So targeting and destroying only Venezuela boats and threating the President of the country would not be considered an act of war.  Dropping bombs on Iran if Iran could respond with bombs of their own would not be considered an act of war either.  Just because the other nation cannot respond to US aggression doesn't mean its would not have lead to war if that nation could respond in kind.

Mach, let's just agree that we disagree.  Have a nice life.



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

Former Shadow President and 46th VP of the US has died. He was 84. He had four heart attacks in his life. Even with his wealth, 90 would've been very slim to reach.

He is survived by his wife, his two daughters, and three-dozen terrorist groups created and emboldened by his wars of aggression.



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