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IkePoR said:
crissindahouse said:

No, I don't contradict myself when I say that a country spending let's say 50b with 320m people isn't trying more than a country spending 2b with 5m people. 

You have to be stupid not to understand that. The 50billion are more but it's still less per capita. There is just 0 logic in saying that the smaller country has to catch up and that the bigger country did more as they had to.

But like I said, Homer Simpson wouldn't understand that neither.

USA can obviously blackmail others because their 50b are more than the 2b but the small country still does more with their possibilities.

Okay cool so they can pay their tarrifs then.  You passive-aggressively trying to call me stupid to not get modded is cute, but you agreeing they'll do what America wants is all I care about. 

This reads as if you believe that Trump's tariffs are paid for by foreign people. I suppose you are trying to call yourself stupid without getting modded.



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RolStoppable said:

This reads as if you believe that Trump's tariffs are paid for by foreign people. I suppose you are trying to call yourself stupid without getting modded.

That's a common belief in MAGAland. The slightly smarter ones try to cope mentioning it could lead to lower taxes or aid American manufacturing. Never mind that you'd need universal 200% import tariffs to replace income taxes.



 

 

 

 

 

Oh look, the richest guy on earth who owns X, sells most of his cars in China, who owns a company with thousands of satellites and who tried to interfere in Ukraine fighting Russia back has access to this now. 

Maybe just give him access to your voting system next if you want to push this guy so hard to the dictatorship he always wants to achieve



haxxiy said:
RolStoppable said:

This reads as if you believe that Trump's tariffs are paid for by foreign people. I suppose you are trying to call yourself stupid without getting modded.

That's a common belief in MAGAland. The slightly smarter ones try to cope mentioning it could lead to lower taxes or aid American manufacturing. Never mind that you'd need universal 200% import tariffs to replace income taxes.

Trump tried tariffs in his first term, I was actually supportive of them, and came to his defence repeatedly, including on this website, because I believe China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat. "bringing manufacturing back." was a solid campaign platform to run on. However, none of those tariffs made a dent.

To be fair, Biden kept those tariffs, doubled, tripled and quadrupled some of them. But coupled them with solid infrastructure investment programs and subsidies that actually made the difference and help manufacturing boom again.

Meanwhile, Trump 2024 ran on repealing the chips act because it was terrible for America... and the MAGA cheered. Wat. At least the goal was clear with the first round of tariffs during his first term, but I'm not sure what's going on right now, it doesn't seem like anyone is able to explain to me



crissindahouse said:

I really hope "the world" comes together to do something against all this tariffs shit from Trump.

If only a few do something, it will be harder for them as for USA because of USA's laughable export numbers (in relation to their whole economy) but if USA's exports to everywhere would be hit and imports from everywhere would get more expensive, than USA would get in trouble pretty fast.

Coalition of Anti-American Fuckery. Except Russia, fuck Russia.

If Trump were smart he would only move onto EU after he is done with Mexico and Canada so for the world to come together, we'd need Trump to be an idiot so EU can join in on the tariffs against America at the same time as Mexico and Canada. Yeah, they should be coordinating with each other, get Trudeau, EU Leaders and Claudia on the same phone call.

crissindahouse said:

Oh look, the richest guy on earth who owns X, sells most of his cars in China, who owns a company with thousands of satellites and who tried to interfere in Ukraine fighting Russia back has access to this now. 

Maybe just give him access to your voting system next if you want to push this guy so hard to the dictatorship he always wants to achieve

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LurkerJ said:
haxxiy said:

That's a common belief in MAGAland. The slightly smarter ones try to cope mentioning it could lead to lower taxes or aid American manufacturing. Never mind that you'd need universal 200% import tariffs to replace income taxes.

Trump tried tariffs in his first term, I was actually supportive of them, and came to his defence repeatedly, including on this website, because I believe China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat. "bringing manufacturing back." was a solid campaign platform to run on. However, none of those tariffs made a dent.

To be fair, Biden kept those tariffs, doubled, tripled and quadrupled some of them. But coupled them with solid infrastructure investment programs and subsidies that actually made the difference and help manufacturing boom again.

Meanwhile, Trump 2024 ran on repealing the chips act because it was terrible for America... and the MAGA cheered. Wat. At least the goal was clear with the first round of tariffs during his first term, but I'm not sure what's going on right now, it doesn't seem like anyone is able to explain to me

Yeah, a lot would still agree that China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat or something undesirable. Unfortunately, Trump was a dumbass who China ran circles around, resulting in what was widely considered a failure of policy during Trump's term and a bailout for American farmers. China outplayed Trump with ease so it's no surprise China is happy to see Trump's return, not because they're friends but because China knows how stupid Trump is and they can play him to their advantage

But yeah, I don't think many care about the tariffs on China, it's just that Trump is too stupid to make them effective. It's the tariffs on allies for completely stupid and made up reasons that most are upset about. I wonder when the braindead tariffs on Taiwan are coming, I can't wait to see the stock market after those come into force, I imagine he has a lot of people desperately trying to speak him out of those ones.

China Vows Measures Against US Tariffs, Threatens WTO Action - Bloomberg

China is taking a slightly different approach than Canada/Mexico for now, I imagine their angle here is to try to turn America against the WTO and further increase China's own global soft power/influence, to look like the adults in the room who respect international order. When America left WHO, China immediately dived in to say they respect WHO and praised it. Feels like calculated moves to increase China's own global soft power while America intends on eroding its own.

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Something to look into, really. Even you don't care about Canada because they are too liberal whatever, it's only a matter of time before Europe gets hit because God knows why. Cancelled my Apple Music and switching to Spotify, my Apple TV is a free trial because (such a shit service, I feel robbed even though I'm watching it for free).

I know how cringe this sounds on the surface, but if you think about it, objectively, this is basically a war that's being waged on Canada for no reason at all, he wants them to become an American state, his own words. If you think this is okay, then you're next. Vast majority of my stockholdings are with American companies, so it's not in my personal interest for these companies to tank (nor they will?), but I'd probably sleep a bit better tonight knowing I've done something and I'm thinking about doing more. This ultimately should turn into a pan European movement, we don't have an ally there and we don't have to wait for them to inflict damage for us to start doing something. 

I'd cut off the cancer inducing shitty edibles Americans mistake for food but we don't have this here anyway. Nor I think if they're allowed into the country, that's how fucked up your country is, but sure, continue to believe taxing Canadians will fix your problems. 



BraLoD said:

All this talk shit going on about "the orange guy" and here I'm hoping it doesn't affect the orange cats reputation.

In recent years orange cats have become the symbol for mischief and became infamous for working with their shared one orange brain cell. Orange cat behavior has become a term by now.

It's pretty evident Trump is trying to surf into their hype train, and being orange and most definitely not having more than one single brain cell shared between his supporters, makes it undeniable.

But hey, don't you dare stain the orange cats reputation, they are adorable little beasts, you are a despicable actual monster.

Orange cats are the best kind.  I like how they are more aggressive than other cats, and have that "one brain cell" thing, b/c dumb and tough should go together.  

We have an orange cat and she loves to  bite my girlfriend, who has small scars on forearms because of the dingus that we call a pet.  I wish that all cats were orange, and they are like this because of more testosterone i think.  Shout out to LH if he reads this haha.



Ryuu96 said:
LurkerJ said:

Trump tried tariffs in his first term, I was actually supportive of them, and came to his defence repeatedly, including on this website, because I believe China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat. "bringing manufacturing back." was a solid campaign platform to run on. However, none of those tariffs made a dent.

To be fair, Biden kept those tariffs, doubled, tripled and quadrupled some of them. But coupled them with solid infrastructure investment programs and subsidies that actually made the difference and help manufacturing boom again.

Meanwhile, Trump 2024 ran on repealing the chips act because it was terrible for America... and the MAGA cheered. Wat. At least the goal was clear with the first round of tariffs during his first term, but I'm not sure what's going on right now, it doesn't seem like anyone is able to explain to me

Yeah, a lot would still agree that China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat or something undesirable. Unfortunately, Trump was a dumbass who China ran circles around, resulting in what was widely considered a failure of policy during Trump's term and a bailout for American farmers. China outplayed Trump with ease so it's no surprise China is happy to see Trump's return, not because they're friends but because China knows how stupid Trump is and they can play him to their advantage

But yeah, I don't think many care about the tariffs on China, it's just that Trump is too stupid to make them effective. It's the tariffs on allies for completely stupid and made up reasons that most are upset about. I wonder when the braindead tariffs on Taiwan are coming, I can't wait to see the stock market after those come into force, I imagine he has a lot of people desperately trying to speak him out of those ones.

China Vows Measures Against US Tariffs, Threatens WTO Action - Bloomberg

China is taking a slightly different approach than Canada/Mexico for now, I imagine their angle here is to try to turn America against the WTO and further increase China's own global soft power/influence, to look like the adults in the room who respect international order. When America left WHO, China immediately dived in to say they respect WHO and praised it. Feels like calculated moves to increase China's own global soft power while America intends on eroding its own.

TSMC is building a massive chip foundry in Arizona, where I live. It was brought here thanks in large part to Biden's CHIPS Act. Trump would be an idiot to engage in economic attacks on Taiwan. If he weren't so invested in just tearing everything down that Biden and Obama did, he'd leave Taiwan alone and take credit he doesn't deserve when the TSMC foundry finally comes online (after multiple cost overruns). But, well, you know.



SanAndreasX said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yeah, a lot would still agree that China being the manufacturer of the world is a security threat or something undesirable. Unfortunately, Trump was a dumbass who China ran circles around, resulting in what was widely considered a failure of policy during Trump's term and a bailout for American farmers. China outplayed Trump with ease so it's no surprise China is happy to see Trump's return, not because they're friends but because China knows how stupid Trump is and they can play him to their advantage

But yeah, I don't think many care about the tariffs on China, it's just that Trump is too stupid to make them effective. It's the tariffs on allies for completely stupid and made up reasons that most are upset about. I wonder when the braindead tariffs on Taiwan are coming, I can't wait to see the stock market after those come into force, I imagine he has a lot of people desperately trying to speak him out of those ones.

China Vows Measures Against US Tariffs, Threatens WTO Action - Bloomberg

China is taking a slightly different approach than Canada/Mexico for now, I imagine their angle here is to try to turn America against the WTO and further increase China's own global soft power/influence, to look like the adults in the room who respect international order. When America left WHO, China immediately dived in to say they respect WHO and praised it. Feels like calculated moves to increase China's own global soft power while America intends on eroding its own.

TSMC is building a massive chip foundry in Arizona, where I live. It was brought here thanks in large part to Biden's CHIPS Act. Trump would be an idiot to engage in economic attacks on Taiwan. If he weren't so invested in just tearing everything down that Biden and Obama did, he'd leave Taiwan alone and take credit he doesn't deserve when the TSMC foundry finally comes online (after multiple cost overruns). But, well, you know.

There's still time for him to take credit, I wouldn't put it past him to threaten tariffs on Taiwan and then make the claim that Taiwan caved and he got a chip foundry in Arizona out of it, the one already being built, not like his fanbase would question his claims, Lmao. We're beyond the time of facts meaning anything now, it's just who can better manipulate and bullshit people