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Jumpin said:
S.Peelman said:

"Needless to say, insulting people who disapproved of this game (either here, elsewhere, or in the abstract) over the IP creator's transphobia cannot be interpreted as anything less than tacit approval of her transphobia and dismissal of concerns over transphobia."

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. Am I reading this wrong? I don't see how this can really imply anything of the sort. I drive a Volkwagen, but that doesn't mean I approve of Adolph Hitler.

Likely not, considering not only did the Nazi regime fall nearly 80 years ago, but you don’t even know how to spell Hitler’s first name. The differences in the situations also highlight the poverty of your argument.

Yawn.

Typo because my grandfather's version of that name is spelled with 'ph' instead of 'f'.



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Zippy6 said:
Shadow1980 said:

As was explained, people are boycotting this game over Rowling's transphobia. It is specifically the dismissal toward or insulting of concerns over her bigotry that will bannable.

So we can express the opinion that she is transphobic or a biggot but are not allowed to express an opinion counter to that.

That sure is what it reads like to me. Personally I find it offensive that people are attacking JK simply because she wants to protect female safe spaces like women's restrooms, women's prisons, mental hospital female only wards, women's locker rooms, etc., from possible abuse by men pretending to be women. We have stories like these out there and you wonder why some women are scared out of their minds right now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750379/Violent-trans-pedophile-raped-three-month-old-moved-female-prison-mother-baby-unit.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life

https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/sighting-of-trans-womans-penis-in-ymca-locker-room-sparks-tears/

Just a few weeks ago, 12 Time NCAA All-American Swimmer Riley Gaines, who competed against transgender swimmer Lia Thomas, was in tears as she talked about how Lia, a 6'4" trans woman with male genitalia still intact, dropped her pants right in front of the biological women, exposing her male genitalia to them. 

Edit: I do fully acknowledge these are "a few bad apples spoil a bunch" type stories. I acknowledge that there are plenty of good transgender people out there who just want to live their lives as normally as possible. They have transitioned to the point where it is no longer safe for them to use the restroom of their birth sex, and the same goes for prisons and such as well. A trans woman who looks 80-90% like a biological a woman is no safer in a male prison or locker room, than the women in a women's prison or locker room are safe with a female identifying male in there with them. We need to be looking for some kind of middle ground here by opening special trans only wards in prisons, those special all gender restrooms with locking doors, trans only sport leagues and classifications, etc., we need to make everyone as happy as possible, not infringe on one group's rights at the cost of another group's rights. Just my two cents. 

Anyway, I will post no more on this subject, especially if it is going to get me banned. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 17 February 2023

I'll keep some of my comments to myself going forward, but I do appreciate that discussion of the game is not banned...



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This is pretty silly. The mod team clearly leans more left than the average user here and average gamer in general which is ok but trying to impose a certain view of things like Rowling and the Hogwarts Legacy boycott on people is not a good move. A moderate or right leaning person who visits this site for the first time and sees this post is likely gonna be discouraged from coming back. Some left leaning people would probably be discouraged too actually since I've seen that some feel negatively towards the boycott so this is gonna look bad to the vast majority of people.

Last edited by Norion - on 18 February 2023

idk I consider myself far left but I don't think mentioning or even joking about the boycott is transphobic unless there's more to that. Obviously being outwardly Transphobic should be a bannable offense. I would be in favor of ditching politics altogether on this site, unpopular opinion for sure.



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I'd say that don't mock those who are making the personal decision to avoid the game due to JK Rowling (which does apply to a large portion of ResetEra). Insulting those are who avoiding the title because they are upset over JK's transphobic remarks can be seen as being dismissive towards her transphobia, we have members here who this hits closer to as well so try to be considerate.

However, on the other side, I'd also say that we won't allow attacks on those who are playing the game, they aren't transphobic simply for playing it, the developers aren't transphobic for creating it, aside from the license to the IP, JK has nothing to do with the game or development team. We also won't ban discussion on this game or frankly any other game.

Goes without saying that bigotry (transphobia, racism, sexism, etc) are all bannable under the forum rules, y'all already know that.

In regards to mocking other forums, I'm going to comment on that from a standpoint outside of this specific issue, I've never really been a big fan of it, even way before this, whether it's mocking ResetEra or sites created from users on this forum, I don't like when threads just become a bitchy attack on other forums, Lol. It does not make us look any better than them who have mocked our site for years (Era/Gaf).

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 February 2023

ice said:

idk I consider myself far left but I don't think mentioning or even joking about the boycott is transphobic unless there's more to that. Obviously being outwardly Transphobic should be a bannable offense. I would be in favor of ditching politics altogether on this site, unpopular opinion for sure.

100% agreed on this. 



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S.Peelman said:
Jumpin said:

Likely not, considering not only did the Nazi regime fall nearly 80 years ago, but you don’t even know how to spell Hitler’s first name. The differences in the situations also highlight the poverty of your argument.

Yawn.

Typo because my grandfather's version of that name is spelled with 'ph' instead of 'f'.

Unless you’re going to argue your grandfather was a Nazi, there’s no relevance to your post.

I recommend taking a nap. Then you’ll stop yawning and your responses will be less dopey.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Just because someone has questioned the boycott does not mean that they lean one way or the other regarding rowling. There is plenty of other companies that work with Jk rowling, or rowling takes royalty from. Harry Potter World at Universal, the cursed child play in London and New York, the books themselves, the movies, and the various other ip licence deals with Funko, lego etc. But the boycott seems to be targetting specifically this game.

So everyone has a right to choose what they believe, but they don't have a right to equate judging an art form in isolation , with having a specific set of values.



Norion said:

This is pretty silly. The mod team clearly leans more left than the average user here and average gamer in general which is ok but tying to impose a certain view of things like Rowling and the Hogwarts Legacy boycott on people is not a good move. A moderate or right leaning person who visits this site for the first time and sees this post is likely gonna be discouraged from coming back. Some left leaning people would probably be discouraged too actually since I've seen that some feel negatively towards the boycott so this is gonna look bad to most people.

It sounds like they want to have an echo chamber here on this topic for this site.