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Ryuu96 said:

Been thinking, who are the best horror creators right now? Who would you like to see Kojima work with on Overdose? I consider Mike Flanagan in the top 10 but I now think his type of horror wouldn't fit well with Kojima. Obviously Del Toro is one, Ari Aster? Robert Eggers is top 10 but I found The Witch to be very overrated, Lol. Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead were rising stars but their recent films look like they bombed critically, a shame.

Flanagan is excellent, although I think he dropped the ball on House Usher. But Hill House and Bly Manor are so extraordinary.



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Thanks to every reponses about Series performance in sales.

To be honest, it's a bit of a morale killer to see this (it's pretty extreme I admit :P).
It hurts my heart to know that the brand that rocked my childhood could potentially disappear, even if there's nothing to indicate that at the moment, especially with Microsoft's massive investment. (ABK & Zenimax)

I sincerely believe that the Xbox Series is Microsoft's second-best console, behind the 360 and well ahead of the One.
What "pisses me off" is how bad Microsoft is at marketing, especially in Europe.

The days of the 360 are long gone in this aspect.

Well, to give you a miniscule bit of hope: I am one of these elusive europeans and even more, I am not even from the UK, I am a german. And yet Xbox Series is my first XBox-console and I am playing it (besides my Switch and recently also a bit more PC).

So why did I join the Xbox camp? Well, two words really describe it: Obsidian and Gamepass. I was really pissed when MS bought Obsidian. But all the wailing was pointless and I had to come to terms with the fact, that there is a place I still can play new Obsidian games. And Gamepass is undoubtely great value. I am too much of an intermittent gamer, so I probably lose money actually, but it makes picking up a new game on a whim also pretty easy. And the paradox is: as a teenager I had a lot of time to play games, but not much money to buy them. Now I have enough money, but not enough time. So I don't really mind "losing" money on Gamepass, but gaining the freedom to decide for a game *now* is worth it.

Oh man, I felt that sentence with all my soul.



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Mnementh said:
Ryuu96 said:

Been thinking, who are the best horror creators right now? Who would you like to see Kojima work with on Overdose? I consider Mike Flanagan in the top 10 but I now think his type of horror wouldn't fit well with Kojima. Obviously Del Toro is one, Ari Aster? Robert Eggers is top 10 but I found The Witch to be very overrated, Lol. Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead were rising stars but their recent films look like they bombed critically, a shame.

Flanagan is excellent, although I think he dropped the ball on House Usher. But Hill House and Bly Manor are so extraordinary.

Imo Hill House is one of the greatest horror shows of all time with some incredible story moments. Then I would rate it House Usher > Midnight Mass > Bly Manor but as far as I'm concerned Flanagan has only had one miss which is Midnight Club.

You have to have a bit of an open mind with Bly Manor, Hill House leans more towards horror, Bly Manor leans more towards romance/love story. He always has deeper messages behind his horror shows as well and damn he knows how to kill certain characters in such a sad but beautiful way.

I don't think his style of horror would fit Kojima at all though.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 December 2023

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Ryuu96 said:

Been thinking, who are the best horror creators right now? Who would you like to see Kojima work with on Overdose? I consider Mike Flanagan in the top 10 but I now think his type of horror wouldn't fit well with Kojima. Obviously Del Toro is one, Ari Aster? Robert Eggers is top 10 but I found The Witch to be very overrated, Lol. Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead were rising stars but their recent films look like they bombed critically, a shame.



Thanks for the welcome messages :)



coolbeans said:
Ryuu96 said:

Been thinking, who are the best horror creators right now? Who would you like to see Kojima work with on Overdose? I consider Mike Flanagan in the top 10 but I now think his type of horror wouldn't fit well with Kojima. Obviously Del Toro is one, Ari Aster? Robert Eggers is top 10 but I found The Witch to be very overrated, Lol. Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead were rising stars but their recent films look like they bombed critically, a shame.

Not for me but I won't call him a bad director

Sometimes I wonder if I should give it a rewatch though.

My first watch sits at the opinion of "it's fine" not bad, not great.

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Ryuu96 said:
Mnementh said:

Flanagan is excellent, although I think he dropped the ball on House Usher. But Hill House and Bly Manor are so extraordinary.

Imo Hill House is one of the greatest horror shows of all time with some incredible story moments. Then I would rate it House Usher > Midnight Mass > Bly Manor but as far as I'm concerned Flanagan has only had one miss which is Midnight Club.

You have to have a bit of an open mind with Bly Manor, Hill House leans more towards horror, Bly Manor leans more towards romance/love story. He always has deeper messages behind his horror shows as well and damn he knows how to kill certain characters in such a sad but beautiful way.

I don't think his style of horror would fit Kojima at all though.

I think one of the biggest goosebump moments in all of horror is learning about the truth of the bent-neck lady. And even though the bent-neck lady was main supplier of shock moments, this reveal tops it all. I thought such a strong moment is towards the end of the series, so when I looked to see the scene again recently, I searched the last episodes, but actually this moment is right in the middle. And yet the series still offers so much to unveil.

The reason I like Hill House and Bly Manor the most, is that in them every moment, every scene has an overarching meaning. You can look back at earlier scenes with the later reveals and realize how they fit in, how they support the overarching theme and plot. And yes, each of them has a certain deeper message, but mostly it is simple: family for Hill House, love for Bly Manor, faith for Midnight mass, death for Midnight club. It is less clear with Usher, I think maybe Hubris, but in that most scenes more seem to hunt for gruesome moments than to support the underlying meaning or the overarching plot. In that regard Usher fails in my opinion.

Because you say the one miss is Midnight Club: I feel the story itself is kinda weak, but the strong part of that show lies in the stories the kids tell in that Midnight Club. And especially how it connects to their character, to their fears, their wishes. That makes the show good in my opinion. The overarching plot is needed, so that we know the characters telling the story, but is otherwise quite unimportant. He tried to make that a bit interesting with the stuff about the rituals, but I think it does not work too well.

And about Kojima: I think if Kojima would work with Flanagan, than the trailer of OD would've showed actors from the gang usually working with Flanagan. He works always with the same actors, so I think he would've recommended them to Kojima as well. Seeing Sophia Lillis in the trailer though always reminds me how the morons at Netflix cancelled I am Not Okay With This.



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10 years greatest game event!

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NightF0x73 said:

Thanks for the welcome messages :)

Always nice to have a newcomer to the forum! Although Ryuu's patience on the lack of a profile avatar will wear thin with time

What kind of games are you into? Nice to have another Obsidian fan! I think I've played pretty much all their games outside of Dungeon Siege III lol