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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 Ships 21.7 Million Units as of June 2022

Kyuu said:
kazuyamishima said:

Both Horizon and GT7 released during the quarter January-March 2022, the first party games sold during that quarter was about 14.5 million units, up 6.6 million units from the same quarter in 2021.

Elden Ring is a third party game not included in the first party numbers. 

Without official numbers, we can’t really say if both games have good sales or not.

But again, is VGC.

3rd party sales declined too. Software numbers overall are a decline from pre-pandemic Q1 FY2019 (12 million 1st party games sold on a smaller install base). 2019 was quite a weak year in terms of 1st party software releases; one of Sony's weakest.

Clearly, the slow PS5 adoption rate isn't offsetting PS4 gamers switching to other platforms or holding out to play these games on PC or PS5 when they finally manage to get one.

Kakadu18 said:

None of these games released in this quarter. They released in February and March.

I know but I expected short-term legs and bundles to carry them well beyond the numbers we're seeing. 1st party sales in particular are shockingly low.

The low shipments of hardware finally caught up with them. If Sony actually shipped enough consoles as usual, then software sales would follow the usual trend.

If PS4 had shipped 3m more by this point and PS5 had shipped 4m more by this point then that is 7m PS owners that would be buying software right about now.



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Sales for PS5 are up 100K yoy and 400K above the previous quarter but down 500K on PS4's Q1 full second fiscal year. I really hope Sony are stockpiling PS5's for a massive 8m to 9m Q3 holiday to get close to their projection. They didn't stockpile any PS5's at all last year with holiday quarter sales being slightly above regular quarter sales. Also now that Sony hasn't updated PS4 sales means that it sold less than 100K and is dead, killed by Sony themselves.

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yo33331 said:
trunkswd said:

No update on PS4 shipments. At least not yet. So that might be it for the console. Though we shall see. Also we do generally match when the PS5 hit 20 million sold which was at the end of May/beginning of June. They didn't provide an exact date. So adjustments for PS5 would only be for June. 

I think this basically means that PS4 hasn't hit 117.10M yet, as Sony can't update the following decimal number after the previous update - 117M

They will probably update it to 117.10M in the next quorter ending september. And maybe once more after holidays or march of next year to 117.20M

Anyway you are right, it's not doing more than that.

P.S. Also why there are some places on the web (even wikipedia) where it says 117.2 shipped as of march 2022 ? I am confused.

A couple of years back Sony re-adjusted PS4 total sales knocking 200K off the total, 100K  off FY 2013-14 from 7.6m to 7.5m and 100K off FY 2014-15 from 14.9m to 14.8m. Seems some places didn't adjust their numbers which is why their total adds up to 117.1m instead of 116.9m.



ShadowLink93 said:
yo33331 said:

I think this basically means that PS4 hasn't hit 117.10M yet, as Sony can't update the following decimal number after the previous update - 117M

They will probably update it to 117.10M in the next quorter ending september. And maybe once more after holidays or march of next year to 117.20M

Anyway you are right, it's not doing more than that.

P.S. Also why there are some places on the web (even wikipedia) where it says 117.2 shipped as of march 2022 ? I am confused.

A couple of years back Sony re-adjusted PS4 total sales knocking 200K off the total, 100K  off FY 2013-14 from 7.6m to 7.5m and 100K off FY 2014-15 from 14.9m to 14.8m. Seems some places didn't adjust their numbers which is why their total adds up to 117.1m instead of 116.9m.

Yes, you are correct. I go by what Sony states on this page for lifetime PS4 shipments (https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data.html). Though, they haven't updated it for the latest quarter yet. Not that it matters as they didn't report PS4 hardware in their earnings report.



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BTW the gap between shipped vs sold right now on VGChartz is between 3 and 4 weeks for PS5 as it should surpass the 21.7M shipped for the week ending July 30.



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With sufficient supply, this thing could’ve been at 35-40 million by now.



I think it is likely that GT7 and HFW sales are softer than Sony was hoping, but I also don’t think it’s a problem with those games, but rather an industry wide trend. Every major player is reporting moderate to major declines in software sales compared to this quarter last year. So really not a Sony problem so much as it is an industry problem



aTokenYeti said:

I think it is likely that GT7 and HFW sales are softer than Sony was hoping, but I also don’t think it’s a problem with those games, but rather an industry wide trend. Every major player is reporting moderate to major declines in software sales compared to this quarter last year. So really not a Sony problem so much as it is an industry problem

Yes, I agree. There were also far less AAA releases for the quarter. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo also sees a drop like Microsoft and Sony when they release their earnings report next week.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:

With sufficient supply, this thing could’ve been at 35-40 million by now.

40 million consoles sold with only 21 months on the market would have been next to impossible, even with great supply, the PS4 during its peak sales years didn’t get close to that kind of sales pace



Sony has sold just under 21M first party software for the year. I estimate:

HFW: 6M - 8M
GT7: 4M - 5M
MLB: 2M - 3M
Uncharted Legacy of Thieves: 1M+
God of War (PC): 1.5M - 2M+