I  agree with your post, but I think you tried too hard here. Why should we care for how a company handle their directors when business are doing bad? They could be fired if the sales are bombing and I personally wouldn't be really concerned. Or they could do nothing and keep the same staff, which I wouldn't care either  

I get it, you guys are the best fandom in the entire games industry that you will dislocate Nintendo's arm if they ever did you any wrong.

Also no, I don't have access to this Deoxit spray you're talking about. I can't even find a proper screwdriver for a screw size as small as the Joycons. I looked it up and it's usually the rubber peice wearing down or not making proper contact with the rest of the circuitry. Only some cases I've seen where dead skin becomes the issue. I mostly kept my switch in it's Dock to prevent it from getting messy, and used rubber guards for it to prevent said skin from getting inside the cons themselves.

This is my second pair and they didn't even last a full year.

I just think it's utter bullshit that I have to pay £65 a pop for a controller that breaks down every few months, it's insanely ludicrous and it's the only system I've ever had drift issues with (never had it happen to any console or gamepads for me, not even the Switch pro gamepad).

What Nintendo should have done is bite their lip and allow for full gamepad refunds WW, yes it would dent their bigass wallet, but that's the price you pay for going with a shoddy client.

Not at all sure where you got "best fandom in the entire games industry" out of my post, since I specifically detailed how the majority of even Nintendo gamers passed on the Wii U.  

Also, you don't need a screwdriver to spray contact cleaner into the thumbstick.  You just spray it around the base, and the contact cleaner gets in there the same way skin/debris does.  Anyway, if what worked for my issue isn't relevant to yours, all right then.

I've never had a drift issue with another console's controllers before either.  But here's a list of hardware issues that I did personally experience with other consoles that I never experienced across 7 generations of Nintendo hardware:

Console couldn't read discs on Day One of console purchase, fresh out of the box from retail (original PlayStation)

Sound issues from A/V Composite cable that came with system (PS2)

Power button failure that eventually led to system failure (original XBox)

Red Ring of Death (XBox 360)

Power Brick Failure (XBox One)

To be clear though, I don't excuse the Joycon drift as a major issue, as I am someone who has been equally frustrated by it whenever it rears its ugly head as well.  I also don't agree with their response to every situation either.  Like their position that "dead pixels" on the original Switch's LCD screens are a common characteristic of LCD screens, and therefore not considered a defect.  I'd be as furious as the next person if I got a Switch with dead pixels on the screen and Nintendo didn't offer a free replacement.

I only included it, because it is a contradiction of the sentiment that Nintendo wouldn't care if a console flops or succeeds as long as enough money flows to the top of the company.  Corporate greed exists in one form or another in all companies, but here was a not often seen case of top tier executives taking a failure personally rather than laying-off lower level employees to protect their bottom line.

Joy cons have been a problem for me too. Problem is I'm having same issues with drift with the ps5 controller.

There is no mob here. You made that nonsense up. Your non-arguments are just that terrible. And your responses in this thread have been infinitely worse.

Had something typed out, but decided I didn't want to get involved any further, so I deleted it and it won't let you leave it empty, hence c.

When Nintendo fucks up, people generally pass on their systems to a sufficient degree that they have to change course; see the Wii U, Virtual Boy, or Gamecube for example. So it's not like they can do whatever they want, the market will clearly punish them if they don't offer a good enough proposition.

As with any company, there are some times when stuff I don't like still succeeds, but all I can do is vote with my wallet. I didn't buy games like 1-2 Switch or ARMS or the Mario sports games for example because I didn't like what they were offering.

After the long dry years of the Wii U though, where the lack of sales meant terrible droughts and a severe lack of third party software, I personally find owning a highly successful Nintendo system again to be a big relief. I haven't finished Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak yet or even started FIST Forged In Shadow Torch, and the next few months are about to bombard me with Xenoblade 3, Splatoon 3, Nier Automata, and Bayonetta 3. I haven't been this happy as gamer since... far out, 2010 I think.

First, Nintendo didn't "make bank" with the Wii U.  Nintendo posted its first losses in over 3 decades during the transition from Wii to Wii U.

Nintendo Records $531.1 Million Annual Loss- 4/26/2012

Nintendo Earnings Disappoint As Wii U Sales Continue To Fall - 7/31/2013

Nintendo posts $456 million annual operating loss - 5/7/2014

Nintendo suffers huge first-quarter loss as Wii U and 3DS sales tumble- 7/27/2016

As for the "fans let them get by" statement, some people enjoyed the Wii U as a console, myself included.  The Gamepad, maligned as it was by the masses, actually did bring innovative gameplay with it.  In Lego City, when an npc character would call Chase McCain's communicator, you would see that characters face talking to you on the Gamepad, and their voice would come through the Gamepad's speakers.  That's a higher level of immersion than an onscreen popup as how it has to be handled in other games on other consoles.  In Madden 13, you can draw-up Hot Routes at the Line of Scrimmage on offense and defense.  This added a whole new ease of changing plays on the fly that would have required multiple button presses and predetermined routes to achieve in other Madden games on other consoles.  I continued playing this version of Madden for years afterwards due to this feature.  Meanwhile, every year, you hear complaints from Madden fans about the lack of innovation from each successive Madden game on other consoles.  These are just a few gameplay examples that immediately come to mind.  There were quality of life features as well.  Going from typing on the virtual keyboard of the Wii U gamepad to having to manually click to each letter of every word of every sentence on another consoles controller feels like a massive step backwards.  The Wii U gamepad became my goto for both YouTube and Google, because of how much easier they were to navigate than on other consoles.  So, yeah, the Wii U had positive things going for it that the majority of gamers overlooked.  That doesn't make all Wii U owners blind Nintendo fans who buy anything Nintendo puts in front of them.

Having said that, Nintendo absolutely didn't "get a pass from Nintendo fans" through that generation.  The much higher sales Wii U software have enjoyed as Switch releases prove that a very large number of gamers indeed held back their money from buying a system and games they otherwise would have purchased and enjoyed.

Also, how many other console manufacturers do you see personally take pay cuts at the executive level in response to the negative reception of their hardware?

Iwata And Miyamoto Both Take Pay Cuts In Response To Nintendo's Poor Financial Results- 1/29/2014

"It has been revealed that Nintendo president Satoru Iwata will be taking a 50 percent pay reduction following Nintendo's recent financial results.

He's not the only one taking a cut; legendary game designer Shigeru Miyamoto will see his wage slashed by 30 percent, as will fellow Nintendo veteran Genyo Takeda. The seven other members of the company's board will each shoulder a 20 percent reduction.

The news comes after Nintendo issued warnings of further financial losses in the future, attributed to the poor commercial performance of the Wii U console. Nintendo expects to make a loss in Q4 of 2014."

*Regarding your joycons, have you tried spraying Deoxit into the thumbstick?  In most cases, it's a buildup of dead skin/debris that get inside the controller which causes the drift.  I still have my launch day Switch joycons, and I've probably sprayed them with Deoxit twice in 5 years, and it eliminated the drift for a long while both times.  I'm not dismissing the drift as a controller quality issue, mind you.  Just mentioning something that has worked for me as a speedy and cheap fix solution.

I only included it, because it is a contradiction of the sentiment that Nintendo wouldn't care if a console flops or succeeds as long as enough money flows to the top of the company.  Corporate greed exists in one form or another in all companies, but here was a not often seen case of top tier executives taking a failure personally rather than laying-off lower level employees to protect their bottom line.

Nintendo had lay offs during Wii U days, at least from what I remember from he thread where some fun update the number of employees. I see your point now, better reducing executives wages than firing baseline.

I agree, but this seems to me as the standard way to deal with bad financial result for tech companies. I'm a software developer and I'm following thr current layoffs trend happening in IT industry, Netflix did something similar to Nintendo and they weren't the only one. I'll try my best to explain my reasoning with my poor English 

Rememeber Nintendo is a company with a few thousand of employees and most of them are engineers and software developers. You can't fire them and expect your operation to keep going as usual. For a company like Nintendo lay off development teams means the strategy was to release less games, delay hardware releases or closing side projects.  

So Nintendo either accepted the losses and keep everyone working as usual hoping this to be just a phase and they could recover in future 

Or they start firing teams, closing projects and financing less games, reducing its size and accepting they would need a more humble start for their next hardware(and then starting growing again)

Nintendo picking first tells me more about how them being resilient (and self assured, in a good sense), which is nice imo but doesn't make them stand out significantly compared to other tec companies 

Off topic, how did Sony handled their executive team during the dark PS3 days? I'm asking because even if they suffered massive losses (much worse than Nintendo's during Wii U) Sony kept supporting the system for as much as they could and even started baking their development teams with nothing but hope they would succeed... and they did, that's when Sony first party output started to have true relevance

You think they care about you? You think your name shows up when they sit down and do their jobs? No, no it does not. The bigger and more successful a company gets, the more they are your enemy!

No written version, it's a discussion video! And though it may fall on some deaf ears, here's hoping at least one person decides it's not worth simping for a big company... ever.

Joy cons have been a problem for me too. Problem is I'm having same issues with drift with the ps5 controller.

And of course, I and many others applauded Iwata's decision to take the pay cut.  This is part of why I even made a tribute video: Iwata was a bit of an anti-CEO in ways.  You watch his interviews and he really seems like he'd rather be making games than running the company, something I recall him even alluding to.  I think the Switch era would have been very different under him, tbh.  But even so, the Wii and DS were so successful that it was inevitable there would be laziness creeping in, something even a CEO can't control because he's not making the sole decisions across a company this big.  Enter the Wii U and 3DS, both factually doing worse than their predecessors, but showing off some Nintendo's brightest software bits.