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No shortages

Switch :120 million

Ps5 : 24million

Xbox : 22 million



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victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.



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victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.

The fastest selling consoles of all time like PS2, GBA, Wii, PS4, NSW all fell in the ~20-25 million range in a similar time frame but PS5 would have been able to do 40 million?

Do you guys even do a moment of critical thinking before throwing out random numbers?



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KrspaceT said:

My main question is actually more if a better supply situation would lead to a Switch 2 faster than in this timeline.

That's so tough to say. Even without shortages and typical production (not unlimited Switch hardware, obviously), the earliest I would see the Switch 2 releasing is November 2022.

In our actually situation, Switch 2 probably launches in November 2023 or March 2024. November 2024 isn't even crazy, though I don't see it taking that long. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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zorg1000 said:
victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.

The fastest selling consoles of all time like PS2, GBA, Wii, PS4, NSW all fell in the ~20-25 million range in a similar time frame but PS5 would have been able to do 40 million?

Do you guys even do a moment of critical thinking before throwing out random numbers?

Maybe not 40 million but I think that's a lot more realistic than most of these low balls.  This thing had crazy hype and has been immediately selling out for years now.  

It would have destroyed PS4 for sure and was outpacing until supply fell behind ps4 numbers 



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Switch would have sold a bit more in 2020, before PS5 and Xbox Series were launched. I can't remember big shortages during last year. OLED model has shortages since launch.
Demand for PS5 was always a bit higher than Xbox Series.
Series S is available for quite some time, only Series X is still rare.

Switch: 115M
PS5: 30M
XSX: 20M



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
zorg1000 said:

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.

The fastest selling consoles of all time like PS2, GBA, Wii, PS4, NSW all fell in the ~20-25 million range in a similar time frame but PS5 would have been able to do 40 million?

Do you guys even do a moment of critical thinking before throwing out random numbers?

Maybe not 40 million but I think that's a lot more realistic than most of these low balls.  This thing had crazy hype and has been immediately selling out for years now.  

It would have destroyed PS4 for sure and was outpacing until supply fell behind ps4 numbers 

Years? It’s been out for a year and a half dude.

You say it would destroy the record if it weren’t for covid but what happened to covid increasing demand for consoles? For all we know those two things are cancelling each other out and there wouldn’t be a significant difference without Covid.



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Maybe not 40 million but I think that's a lot more realistic than most of these low balls.  This thing had crazy hype and has been immediately selling out for years now.  

It would have destroyed PS4 for sure and was outpacing until supply fell behind ps4 numbers 

At this point in the PS4's life (lets use March 2015's shipment numbers) it was at 22.3M units. PS5 outpacing PS4 would have been a few percentage points higher, not almost twice as much. That would mean that the PS5 would have to ship like 30M consoles per year. The PS4 shipped 20M at the very height of it's popularity. The idea that PS5 would be anywhere close to 40M at this point is just ridiculous. Even 30M is pushing it. 



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.

I think most these comments might be from USA where the ps is not as popular, but here in Europe we have xbox widely available and I've never even seen a ps5 anywhere and friends keep asking me where to buy one from, as Im more into gaming, I was offered good money for mine, and I paid over the price too. As soon as a ps5 hits the second hand market even at higher prices, it goes quick.



zorg1000 said:
victor83fernandes said:

Switch - same, there has always been switches available

PS5 - 40 million, your prediction of 25 is ridiculous, there's no ps5 anywhere to be found and I know a lot of people crazy looking for one that doesn't cost 800 dollars, you underestimate how popular the PS is, especially as it has full backwards compatibility with the ps4

Xbox - 15 million, because many people bought the series S instead, there's xbox series X and S both available on amazon for a few days already and its not selling out at all. I've also had a chance to buy one since launch on worten website if you are willing to wait for delivery. And there's a crazy high amount of series S being sold second hand on local facebook classifieds for less than 200 dollars.

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Yeah people are way too low with their PS5 predictions.  This thing would be blazing a new path of sales had it not been for COVID.  Shame really.

The fastest selling consoles of all time like PS2, GBA, Wii, PS4, NSW all fell in the ~20-25 million range in a similar time frame but PS5 would have been able to do 40 million?

Do you guys even do a moment of critical thinking before throwing out random numbers?

The ps2 was never as popular, it was different times, gaming is much bigger now, especially with online gaming and all the services. The ps4 was also never as popular, because it could not play ps3 games. The ps5 is way more popular, same reason why the switch is selling, gaming is bigger now compared to the gamecube era.

Its crazy to me that you guys do not think the ps5 would have sold 21 million more consoles in 18 months when so many people are wishing they could find one. I actually know more people willing to buy one now than people who actually have one. From me and friends only 3 of us have it, at least another 10 guys want one as soon as they can, not to mention colleagues I have who switched to PC because they couldn't wait any longer.

Maybe my prediction is a bit high, but minimum would be at 30 million, no questions about that.