so you're saying that only exclusives matter? because I hate to break it to you, but basically since the beginning of the medium, new generations cross-released a lot of stuff. This idea that stuff like Ghost of Tsushima or Horizon Forbidden West or Spiderman Miles morales 'don't count' becuase they are cross generational is just silly, ESPECIALLY when you consider the way this generation (for both PS5 and XSX) has handled that sort of thing. MOST games that are cross generational have little to no upgrade fee, you just download it and can play the newer version once you get the new console. Sure, PS5 does require you to pay a nominal fee for the upgrade, which isn't ideal, but it's better than having to pay for a whole new game like you would have in prior generations. 

The backwards compatibility and the cross-generational options are part of why I love this generation so much. In the first year of the PS5 alone I had something ludicrous like 30 games on my system, and while almost all of them were just PS4 games with a coat of polish and 60 FPS, that's still really awesome to me. 

So I stand by my statement: The PS5 is everything the PS4 can do but more and better. And that's not a dig against the PS4, but when it comes to thinking about 'which one is your favourite', it's hard to not see the PS5 as an objective improvement. Does it have, on its own, the longevity and impact of the PS4? Way too early too tell, but it's absolutely reasonable to say that I (and apparently many others) like it better for those reasons. 

Plus there's the controller functions, which matter. 

before the PS5 came out the PS4 was my favourite PS console. but within just a few months that shifted. The PS5 is basically a PS4 with better performance, a better controller, and even more games as well as virtually every Ps4 game. It can do virtually everything the PS4 can but can do it better and can do more. You're free to say that none of that 'counts' but that seems rather silly to me. Seems like you're just trying to enforce arbitrary rules on the system because of recency bias. 

I just said that the experience of using a new console and stuff.. IMO there isn't much new games that aren't cross gen or that all spectacular, just yet. At least from first party. Not saying not an improvement.. ofc with new technologies we'd expect that. I tend to think of games first when judging a console not the hardware or experiences with the same games on last generation consoles.. different strokes and all that.

Nah the recency bias thing.. well hmm you could say the same about current gen consoles since most people are playing those now. I'm looking at it from a pure game release POV. Call it whatever you want. But anyway this is going nowhere so lets agree to disagree before this derails further..

For me, just personal opinion, the ps5 is the least impressive of the Playstation consoles. But only because it is brand new, it will improve over time. I rank consoles in terms of exclusives. The ps5 has Demon Remake and Ratchet. Everything else I can get elsewhere.

Also Returnal.

The PS2 is my favorite Console by far Followed by the PS3. big library of games of great quality and lot's of variety. PS1 was good too. PS4 was ok the whole 8th gen was a bit disappointing for me. Don't really have an opinion on PS5 at the moment.

Top 5 games would be.
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy X
Ratchet and Clank Up Your Arsenal
GTA San Andreas
Kingdom Hearts 2

I think PS2 probably had 100 games exclusive to it that were better than anything but the top 5 games on xbox and gamecube. It's the console generation I played the most games and one of two generations I owned all three consoles. I used to buy everything used using gamestop or ebay so I have massive collections during this time. It's honestly like an entire lifetime by itself with the amount of quality games I spent playing on the PS2. By far the Tier 0 console for me. Nothing comes close.

I voted "The PS Quad" I bought so many games for my best friend's PS4.

If the consoles are ranked based on the games you can play that released first on that console. Then PS3 will win for me and PS5 last.

This is a strange reasoning. As now most of games are multiplat and also released on PCs. PS4 for instance has a huge library, but not a single exclusive now because of the cross gen thing, you can get any their game elsewhere 

Exactly my point and why Nintendo ranks high for me.  I can't play their offerings anywhere else.

If Sony keeps porting to PC, yeah I might go that route and start buying PC.  The only reason I haven't is because of GPU prices.

So my opinion holds for me.  Exclusives sell hardware.  If next generation I can get MS and Sony titles on PC....  why get an Xbox and ps6, when a single PC will suffice?