5-10 years ago, and certainly in the 90's (as I say Musk is more of a 90's democrat), the main stream democratic party would have never said people should have to wear masks or get vaccines for something that kills less than 1% of the people that have symptoms in the first place, let alone those that don't exibit any symptoms and therefore don't get tested. The right hasn't moved further right, nor has the middle moved further right, but the left has gone waaaay left in America in a ridiculously short time. And not just on Covid. 

@bolded: I don't get this statement, since Neoliberalism is famously a right-winged movement, that has it's roots back somewhere in the 60's but became quite famous with Thatcher, a famous representative of the right (the real right, not this thing people are calling "right" nowadays, which should actually be called savagery or anything like it).

Do you have any way to back up this claim that in the face of a woldwide generation defining pandemic that kills 10 times what we usually see from something like the more endemic flu would have been met by complete apathy (honestly they wouldn't have even said people should wear masks?) by the democrat party 5 years ago? 

I can see you are against mask mandates from your post, so I take the 6.2 MILLION people that died from Covid are like, what, a simple nuisance? But, really? I could have listened to that argument about two years ago and payed attention to it, but science has proved time and again that masks were and are not only effective against spreading the disease, but also a not invasive way to help people get back into society. Every single one that has half a brain cell and can read knows that by now, so I would say that it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with a party moving to the left, doesn't matter to what degree. 

Also, what is the actual problem with these people and the mask hatred? I got an infection from an injury on my face from using masks too much some 2 months ago and I would do it again in a heartbeat if that meant I would protect myself AND a fellow human by doing so. And I am not even going to stress myself about the vaccine part.

Finally, do you really think that "the right hasn't moved further right"? For real??? Can you actually compare Reagan, the Bushes, McCain, in the US, or Gorbachev, in Russia, proper representatives of the classical right-wing, to fascist/bigot/nazis such as Trump and Putin? AND say the right has not moved further to the right? Oh my goodness! (Well, I was told in my childhood that being able to read such things is better than being blind.)

I should hope the answer to your questioning comes. See above my comment, pretty much in the same sense.

In the same sense, in America, as per the liberals, everything that doesn't fit what the Dems are doing or saying, is not even conservative, but automatically racist or Nazi. A growing portion of both sides is getting more radical.

Bill Maher, who's been extremely against Trump and the conservatives over the past 4 or so years, has been saying recently the center hasn't changed much, but the left has gone crazy for some time and is way out to left field. He also thinks the right has shifted more right, mostly due to Trump since 2016.

My point is pretty simple. If someone like Maher is saying the left has gone way too far left, Dulfites point about past Democrats (like President Clinton) reacting less harshly to a covid type scenario would seem reasonably likely. How exactly they would've reacted obviously can't be known for certain.

Dulfite, I see the point you're trying to make beyond covid, but Elon hasn't taken over Twitter just yet. No need to end up blue in the face. A virtue, patience is.

Only a few months ago did I realize that porn, actual porn, is allowed on Twitter.

So really the platform is pretty open. Hate speech and the usual violence, gore, abuse stuff obviously not allowed.

The difficulty here is that I honestly don't think that recommending masks during a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic is some sign that things have gone crazy left politically. What you seem to be telling me is that President Clinton would have been an idiot rather than that he'd be more center. 

What proof or evidence is there that this was a once in a lifetime pandemic? It goes both ways and nobody truly knows, we can only guess.

Masking if it's clearly useful enough isn't so much the problem in a bubble I'd assume, but more so it's the question of how useful the types were, how useful they were for everyone, and why no money for (better masks) if there was a definite need, with all the money that was thrown around?

I would also guess, in a world where every type of new safety measure tends to become the norm, like our new normal, it's not ridiculous to believe that people will assume the next illness, regardless of severity, and so on, will automatically lead to masking up. Again, nobody truly knows.

I wouldn't say Clinton was an idiot overall. He was a relatively decent President in comparison. There was the whole Monica thing which wasn't exactly handled professionally, and not professional to begin with, but that's getting way off topic.

Every time I see the words "free speech" in this context, I'm always baffled. You don't have the freedom to use someone else's service online to speak your mind. Not on here, not on Twitter, not on anything. Unless you build your own service, you are at the mercy of those hosting whatever service you are using at the time. Why this very simple reality is lost on almost everyone is beyond me. I feel like maybe we should start teaching it in pre-school, so we can once-and-for-all put and end to it lol.