Otter said:
jason1637 said:
Damn the Wii U was such a major flop. It still boggles my mind how bad Nintendo fumbled the ebag after the Wii. |
It makes for quite the case study. A lot of stuff went wrong but the system was solid by the end of year 2. It's hard to imagine that after the Wii's success, a system with its own Smash Bros, a Shiny new Mario Kart and a 3D Mario can flop so bad. Like zero brand loyalty lol. It's actually one of the reasons why I think Nintendo ought to have a new system sooner rather than later, I think they're wider audience is quite fickle. Keeping them locked into the echosystem whilst its trending is something they should lean towards vs waiting for notable decline and restarting from zero. |
Dulfite said:
Otter said:
It makes for quite the case study. A lot of stuff went wrong but the system was solid by the end of year 2. It's hard to imagine that after the Wii's success, a system with its own Smash Bros, a Shiny new Mario Kart and a 3D Mario can flop so bad. Like zero brand loyalty lol. It's actually one of the reasons why I think Nintendo ought to have a new system sooner rather than later, I think they're wider audience is quite fickle. Keeping them locked into the echosystem whilst its trending is something they should lean towards vs waiting for notable decline and restarting from zero. |
Many gamers and basically every casual, didn't even knto Wii U existed or thought the controller was for the Wii. I've seen gamers thinking this first hand, one even argued with me that it was just a controller and not a new system when it was out lol. If Nintendo had named this a good name it would have sold at least 30 million more, hands down. Names are the most important thing for any device, and Nintendo picked about the least clear and most confusing name possible for a consumer. |
This. Nintendo suffered a lot of bad word of mouth throughout the Wii U's lifetime as well. I used to frequent the numerous Gamestops in my area during the 8th gen. I remember more than once overhearing Gamestop employees actively talking customers out of buying a Wii U. I also remember visiting my nephew while on vacation and mentioning the Wii U to him. His exact response was, "I heard the Wii U had like... Atari graphics." Which let me know that the Sony campaign, plagiarized from Sega's playbook, still had deep-lasting roots on the playgrounds of the day. But, I had brought my Wii U on the trip, and when I showed it to him and played the games with him, he had a blast with it. But, it's not something he would have ever asked for without that hands on experience. So, it doesn't matter at which point a Nintendo system launches in it's predecessor's lifetime if it has that much negative word of mouth going against it. And to make matters worse, the Wii U never had a good marketing campaign from Nintendo to establish its identity in the public consciousness. I don't know how they went from the brilliant "Wii would like to play" campaign of the 7th gen, to having to still try to explain what the Wii U was over a year after its release. Unless that was always the blueprint just to get from Wii to Switch, but needing something to be on the shelf to bridge the gap until the Switch itself was ready for launch.
Anyway, as long as Nintendo provides a device that speaks for itself, like they did with the Switch, they won't have to worry about "fickle" consumers. The hybrid space isn't going to go away.