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EpicRandy said: Bakhmuth have been used by Ukraine to inflict maximum casualities to russian and lock large swats of their troops in the east. So far it's been a sucess for Ukraine on both front. |
No it hasn't. The toll on Ukranian's army is worse than the toll on Russians, in relative numbers. Putin has enough village idiots to continue storming Bakhmuth as long as he wants. As long as he doesn't have to large-scale conscript in "main land (large "westernised" cities, in essence)" he is safe, while Ukrania is bleeding soldiers. He can easily go for 3:1 to 5:1 losses for longer than the Ukrainians can.
Sure one can say "Bakhmuth is Ukrania's Fort Alamo", but this analogy only holds if the Ukranians have enough soldiers left to regroup and organise while the Russinas are held up in Bakhmuth. Whatever Russian bloke runs the attacks on Bakhmuth is the same idiot as Santa Anna was.
drkohler said:
No it hasn't. The toll on Ukranian's army is worse than the toll on Russians, in relative numbers. Putin has enough village idiots to continue storming Bakhmuth as long as he wants. As long as he doesn't have to large-scale conscript in "main land (large "westernised" cities, in essence)" he is safe, while Ukrania is bleeding soldiers. He can easily go for 3:1 to 5:1 losses for longer than the Ukrainians can. Sure one can say "Bakhmuth is Ukrania's Fort Alamo", but this analogy only holds if the Ukranians have enough soldiers left to regroup and organise while the Russinas are held up in Bakhmuth. Whatever Russian bloke runs the attacks on Bakhmuth is the same idiot as Santa Anna was. |
Afghanistan tells us russia cannot sustain even a fraction of the loss they now suffer in Ukraine if things drags on. All indication point that russia is suffering many times more losses than Ukraine in bakmuth. This is supported by the simple fact that it is the main reasons Ukraine drags things on there instead of simply leaving the town. But if you have sources to the contrary feel free to share.
Bakmuth is not a fort Alamo either as escape route are still secured. You know the ones Russia tried many time to cut but failed everytime, cause their village idiots, are actualy the one leading russian troops and the least we can say is that they've shown this tag is well earned.
Last edited by EpicRandy - on 26 April 2023drkohler said:
No it hasn't. The toll on Ukranian's army is worse than the toll on Russians, in relative numbers. Putin has enough village idiots to continue storming Bakhmuth as long as he wants. As long as he doesn't have to large-scale conscript in "main land (large "westernised" cities, in essence)" he is safe, while Ukrania is bleeding soldiers. He can easily go for 3:1 to 5:1 losses for longer than the Ukrainians can. Sure one can say "Bakhmuth is Ukrania's Fort Alamo", but this analogy only holds if the Ukranians have enough soldiers left to regroup and organise while the Russinas are held up in Bakhmuth. Whatever Russian bloke runs the attacks on Bakhmuth is the same idiot as Santa Anna was. |
People often seem to forget that Russia may have more people but they also need enough in Russia. Same with their equipment. They can't throw everything they have at Ukraine because they need enough for Russia's own security.
Ukraine fights in Ukraine. There's not much they can't use in this conflict.
Skeeuk said: ive a feeling once bakhmut goes ukraine may enter negotiations. nato is completely bankrolling ukraine at the moment. when support stops it will be even worse for ukraine. |
I don't feel that's accurate given that other reports are saying Russia is taking defensive positions across the frontline (babring Bakhmut) in anticipation of the much anticipated Ukrainian spring assault.
Plus the US and Europe have given no indication that are they are soon to cut Ukraine off, quite the opposite in fact. Only reason they would if there was a sudden shift in their foreign policy - such as if Trump or a Trumpist candidate got back int he White House.
Skeeuk said: ive a feeling once bakhmut goes ukraine may enter negotiations. nato is completely bankrolling ukraine at the moment. when support stops it will be even worse for ukraine. |
Lmao. Ukraine will negotiate a surrender after losing a small city which it took Russians near a year and thousands of dead soldiers to take?
You wish. Also, NATO won't stop supporting Ukraine. It's currently bleeding Russia dry without even using half their military strength.
See you in a few weeks-months for your next negative Ukrainian/Positive Russian comment to post, scurry off and ignore everyone's reply.
drkohler said:
No it hasn't. The toll on Ukranian's army is worse than the toll on Russians, in relative numbers. Putin has enough village idiots to continue storming Bakhmuth as long as he wants. As long as he doesn't have to large-scale conscript in "main land (large "westernised" cities, in essence)" he is safe, while Ukrania is bleeding soldiers. He can easily go for 3:1 to 5:1 losses for longer than the Ukrainians can. Sure one can say "Bakhmuth is Ukrania's Fort Alamo", but this analogy only holds if the Ukranians have enough soldiers left to regroup and organise while the Russinas are held up in Bakhmuth. Whatever Russian bloke runs the attacks on Bakhmuth is the same idiot as Santa Anna was. |
No, you don't know that for sure. It's extremely hard to estimate Ukraine's total military size remaining and nobody truly knows.
We do know that Russia has been struggling to meet its mobilisation targets and you can throw as many village idiots at the situation as you want, it won't mean shit if you don't have the equipment to back it up, this isn't the 1800s-early 1900s anymore, we aren't winning wars by both sides lining up thousands of soldiers, handing them a gun and telling them to charge, Lol.
A well planned combined arms offensive will smash through any amount of foot-soldiers you put in the battlefield. I was worried at first about using Bakhmut to bleed the Russians but I've no reason to doubt Zaluzhnyi thus far, I assume he knows what he is doing better than any of us here, Lol. He has proven himself multiple times.
While the Russians are bogged down in Bakhmut, Ukraine is building forces elsewhere.
Frankly, the only reason that Ukraine will lose this war (if they even do) will be if the West was too slow in supplying them.
drkohler said:
No it hasn't. The toll on Ukranian's army is worse than the toll on Russians, in relative numbers. Putin has enough village idiots to continue storming Bakhmuth as long as he wants. As long as he doesn't have to large-scale conscript in "main land (large "westernised" cities, in essence)" he is safe, while Ukrania is bleeding soldiers. He can easily go for 3:1 to 5:1 losses for longer than the Ukrainians can. Sure one can say "Bakhmuth is Ukrania's Fort Alamo", but this analogy only holds if the Ukranians have enough soldiers left to regroup and organise while the Russinas are held up in Bakhmuth. Whatever Russian bloke runs the attacks on Bakhmuth is the same idiot as Santa Anna was. |
That's the point: He doesn't!
Between the losses in the war and the young Russians fleeing the country last year, there's very few Russians left in the 20-40 age bracket. There's a reason Putin had to issue a travel ban to all men in recruitment age (22-28 years old if I'm not mistaken) as the country is running very low on professional soldiers - as well as future parents!
Bakhmut is not Ukraine's Alamo, it's much more like Russia's Verdun
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What a pack of lies in this thread Russia running out of men, bullets, armour
It's the other way round. Almost all of Ukraine's equipment that they started with is gone (see leaked cia document) that's why they are being bankrolled can't wait for the west to walk away like they did in Afghanistan only then Ukrainian Stephan Bandera supporters will realise zalensky decisions have destroyed the country, the annexed areas won't come back now.
Things not looking good in Bakhmut now it's been used by Russia to bleed Stephan Bandera supporters you have to feel sorry for ukranians.
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EpicRandy said:
Bakhmuth have been used by Ukraine to inflict maximum casualities to russian and lock large swats of their troops in the east. So far it's been a sucess for Ukraine on both front. And there's absolutetly no genuine way to look at the situation and not conclude that Russia is not the one responsible for Ukraine financial status. Anyway Russia will end up with the bill with this is all done. Support from Nato and other nations have been unwavering and only increased over time. All the indication point that it will continue this way. |
Look at the leaked top secret document that was in news Americans put losses 7 to 1 in Russia favour. Ukraine has nothing apart from what is donated. I'd recommend Getting news from telegram channels on the ground than Kiev independent and similar sources
It's Ukraine running out of stuff not Russia..
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/1703
Explain what's happening here? There's tons of videos of officers literally kidnapping men from streets they are on 11th or so mobilisation against a country that hasn't even declared war on them.
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Skeeuk said:
Look at the leaked top secret document that was in news Americans put losses 7 to 1 in Russia favour. Ukraine has nothing apart from what is donated. I'd recommend Getting news from telegram channels on the ground than Kiev independent and similar sources It's Ukraine running out of stuff not Russia.. https://t.me/ukraine_watch/1703 Explain what's happening here? There's tons of videos of officers literally kidnapping men from streets they are on 11th or so mobilisation against a country that hasn't even declared war on them. |
You know wagner is actively recruiting right? You have the mindset that they look for.