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Cobretti2 on 27 April 2023
EpicRandy said:
Skeeuk said:

Look at the leaked top secret document that was in news Americans put losses 7 to 1 in Russia favour. Ukraine has nothing apart from what is donated. I'd recommend Getting news from telegram channels on the ground than Kiev independent and similar sources

It's Ukraine running out of stuff not Russia..

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/1703

Explain what's happening here? There's tons of videos of officers literally kidnapping men from streets they are on 11th or so mobilisation against a country that hasn't even declared war on them.

First your link is not working, seconds I have 0 confidence in a site whose domain name is t.me, and neither should you.  

Also the CIA documents highlight 189,500 to 223,000 Russian casualties (35,500 to 43,000 death), compared to 124,500 to 131,000 Ukrainians (15,500 to 17,500 death). So you are clearly being misinformed.

If your info had any elements of truths in them, then explain why isn't it already over, explain why Russian progress is ever so slow, explain Kharkhiv, explain Kherson, and Explain why Ukraine just does not leave Bakmuth which has 0 value other than the ability to inflict casualties to Russian.

It's not like we expect all of our information to be devoid of propaganda but your information goes against the reality of the situation in so many ways it's baffling to even give them a hint of credit.

It's a telegram video link lol.

All it is showing is that a Ukrainian soldier is trying to enlist young men into the army who appear to be trying to avoid service and are being protected by their family.

All able bodied men should be defending their country so not sure how he gets Ukraine running out of resources based on a video.



 

 

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CaptainExplosion on 27 April 2023
Ryuu96 said:
KiigelHeart said:

For example Tucker Carlson has been spreading this 7:1 lie, it's explained here https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/20/ukraine-tucker-carlson-kennedy/

Here's a list of pro-Russia actors and propagandists https://vatniksoup.com/

If you see information spread by these people it's best to apply some extra-critical thinking. Actually Kim Dotcom is looking to sue Pekka Kallioniemi over this list and some others are calling Elon to ban it from Twitter lol free speech, anyone? 

16. "Useful idiots"

Lmao. 👀

The far right guys like Fucker Carlson are hypocrites when it comes to free speech, hypocrites when it comes to "cancel culture".

Wouldn't surprise me if Elon actually did ban it from Twitter.

Steven Seagal is unsurprisingly on that list. He was a shitty actor anyway.



Ryuu96 on 27 April 2023

The Russian special vessel SS-750 was near the Nord Stream pipes four days before the pipes were blown up on September 26 last year. The special vessel is designed to carry out operations under the sea and has a mini submarine of the AS-26 Priz type on board.

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CaptainExplosion on 27 April 2023
Ryuu96 said:

The Russian special vessel SS-750 was near the Nord Stream pipes four days before the pipes were blown up on September 26 last year. The special vessel is designed to carry out operations under the sea and has a mini submarine of the AS-26 Priz type on board.

What were those pipes for?



Ryuu96 on 27 April 2023
CaptainExplosion said:
Ryuu96 said:

The Russian special vessel SS-750 was near the Nord Stream pipes four days before the pipes were blown up on September 26 last year. The special vessel is designed to carry out operations under the sea and has a mini submarine of the AS-26 Priz type on board.

What were those pipes for?

Natural gas supply, Russia to Germany.



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CaptainExplosion on 27 April 2023
Ryuu96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

What were those pipes for?

Natural gas supply, Russia to Germany.

So Russia was trying to blow up the pipes? Wouldn't put it past them.



EpicRandy on 27 April 2023
CaptainExplosion said:
Ryuu96 said:

Natural gas supply, Russia to Germany.

So Russia was trying to blow up the pipes? Wouldn't put it past them.

They were not trying, they did.



CaptainExplosion on 27 April 2023
EpicRandy said:
CaptainExplosion said:

So Russia was trying to blow up the pipes? Wouldn't put it past them.

They were not trying, they did.

They really are terrorists. -_- So what good will that photo do?



EpicRandy on 27 April 2023
CaptainExplosion said:
EpicRandy said:

They were not trying, they did.

They really are terrorists. -_- So what good will that photo do?

Proove their involvement during due process investigation. It might be enough evidence to justify further santions if that's even possible. It might also further supports to officialy declare Russia a terrorist state.

Also the attack on the pipeline is an indirect attack on Nato by saboting their energy security. Would Russia be found guilty of the attack it might serve as justification for Nato to boost Ukraine support to a new level.



CaptainExplosion on 27 April 2023
EpicRandy said:
CaptainExplosion said:

They really are terrorists. -_- So what good will that photo do?

Proove their involvement during due process investigation. It might be enough evidence to justify further santions if that's even possible. It might also further supports to officialy declare Russia a terrorist state.

Also the attack on the pipeline is an indirect attack on Nato by saboting their energy security. Would Russia be found guilty of the attack it might serve as justification for Nato to boost Ukraine support to a new level.

And kill Putin? Please say yes.