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crissindahouse said:
Zkuq said:

The news here report that they didn't dare shoot it down in an urban area. Probably the risks of shooting it down were even greater. The city that was hit is like kilometers away from the Ukrainian border, so there's also very little time to react.

Sounds weak. "We can't shoot anything down hitting buildings close to the border because we only realize there's something when it's too late and need drones/rockets to take three extra turns to give us enough time"  

Shouldn't matter where the drone is because air defense systems don't stop to recognize incoming danger at the border. Their radar system reach is x miles to recognize something incoming to react to it as soon as it is above your territory. Drone swarms, ok, but a single drone? Damn...

If they didn't shoot it down because they thought it is some mislead drone probably hitting a field it's something else though. 

There's a good chance it won't hit anything if not shot down. Shoot it down in an urban area, and there's a major chance it's going to hit something. Shooting it down while it's in Ukraine isn't unproblematic either, because then it could harm Ukrainians. It might be possible to shoot it down before it enters the densest urban area, but there's probably at most minutes to react, so you've got to be 100% prepared to shoot it down before it even enters the country, and even then, there might be risk of missing and shooting into Ukraine instead (or your own territory).

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more drones shot down safely, but statistically speaking, it might really be safer to not shoot them down in or near urban areas. I'm sure there's also room for improvement, but this hardly seems like incompetence to me.



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Russia is banning the export of Jet fuel due to shortages at home from Ukraine's crippling strikes: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Russia-Bans-Jet-Fuel-Exports-as-Ukrainian-Attacks-Cripple-Refining.html



Russian Finance ministers tell Putler that the war spending is unaffordable

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-01/russia-finance-officials-tell-putin-war-spending-is-unaffordable

This was obvious but Russia had a huge war chest of gold saved and also any ministers were afraid broach the topic. It’s just that the economics and debt have gotten so bad that they are finally saying something.



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konnichiwa said:
Zkuq said:

Never mind me, I'm just posting this to get this back in my VGC Buddy after not posting here in a while.

To say something on the topic as well, I guess I could say that the current situation is kind of interesting but also kind of boring. The situation on the battlefield seems fairly stable, but there's something going on with the peace negotiations. It looks like typical theatre to me in that everyone's playing but it's not likely to yield any actual results because Russia doesn't seem like it could care less about ending the war in any way that doesn't end in Ukraine practically losing its sovereignty, but who knows.

Well it is an interesting year because

-We have heard for years that Russia is getting to its limits but this year everything is crumbling, from not having enough war material to not having the capicity to produce enough, financially it is getting harder especially to motivate new recruits.

-The peace deal, Putin is hitting Ukraine hard this winter but if the Ukranians can keep it steady then Spring can motivate them while Russians losing Morale especially with the shorter nights.

Loving this:

Kyiv: Ukraine recaptured more territory than it lost to Russian forces in May for the second straight month, AFP analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) showed.

Ukraine's army gained a net 282 square kilometres (109 square miles) over the month, according to the analysis, as Kyiv hails its improving fortunes on the sprawling battlefield across the south and east of the country.

The pace of Russia's advance has been slowing since late 2025, hobbled by the increasing effectiveness of Ukraine's frontline and mid-range drone strikes, the ISW said.

Moscow had lost control of around 120 square kilometres (46 square miles) in April, the first month in which its forces gave up more ground than they captured for two and a half years.






konnichiwa said:
konnichiwa said:

Well it is an interesting year because

-We have heard for years that Russia is getting to its limits but this year everything is crumbling, from not having enough war material to not having the capicity to produce enough, financially it is getting harder especially to motivate new recruits.

-The peace deal, Putin is hitting Ukraine hard this winter but if the Ukranians can keep it steady then Spring can motivate them while Russians losing Morale especially with the shorter nights.

Loving this:

Kyiv: Ukraine recaptured more territory than it lost to Russian forces in May for the second straight month, AFP analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) showed.

Ukraine's army gained a net 282 square kilometres (109 square miles) over the month, according to the analysis, as Kyiv hails its improving fortunes on the sprawling battlefield across the south and east of the country.

The pace of Russia's advance has been slowing since late 2025, hobbled by the increasing effectiveness of Ukraine's frontline and mid-range drone strikes, the ISW said.

Moscow had lost control of around 120 square kilometres (46 square miles) in April, the first month in which its forces gave up more ground than they captured for two and a half years.

Yeah, the tide is definitely turning. We'll see if it lasts, but right now it seems like it should. I'm thinking only some terrible elections could turn the tide back in Russia's favour, but at this rate, Russia is going to implode on itself, so even weakened support for Ukraine might be able to suffice. China backing Russia more strongly could also turn the tide, but last I heard, that didn't exactly sound likely...



Zkuq said:
konnichiwa said:

Loving this:

Kyiv: Ukraine recaptured more territory than it lost to Russian forces in May for the second straight month, AFP analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) showed.

Ukraine's army gained a net 282 square kilometres (109 square miles) over the month, according to the analysis, as Kyiv hails its improving fortunes on the sprawling battlefield across the south and east of the country.

The pace of Russia's advance has been slowing since late 2025, hobbled by the increasing effectiveness of Ukraine's frontline and mid-range drone strikes, the ISW said.

Moscow had lost control of around 120 square kilometres (46 square miles) in April, the first month in which its forces gave up more ground than they captured for two and a half years.

Yeah, the tide is definitely turning. We'll see if it lasts, but right now it seems like it should. I'm thinking only some terrible elections could turn the tide back in Russia's favour, but at this rate, Russia is going to implode on itself, so even weakened support for Ukraine might be able to suffice. China backing Russia more strongly could also turn the tide, but last I heard, that didn't exactly sound likely...

I imagine Putin having a great day today in ST petersburg.






konnichiwa said:
konnichiwa said:

Well it is an interesting year because

-We have heard for years that Russia is getting to its limits but this year everything is crumbling, from not having enough war material to not having the capicity to produce enough, financially it is getting harder especially to motivate new recruits.

-The peace deal, Putin is hitting Ukraine hard this winter but if the Ukranians can keep it steady then Spring can motivate them while Russians losing Morale especially with the shorter nights.

Loving this:

Kyiv: Ukraine recaptured more territory than it lost to Russian forces in May for the second straight month, AFP analysis of data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) showed.

Ukraine's army gained a net 282 square kilometres (109 square miles) over the month, according to the analysis, as Kyiv hails its improving fortunes on the sprawling battlefield across the south and east of the country.

The pace of Russia's advance has been slowing since late 2025, hobbled by the increasing effectiveness of Ukraine's frontline and mid-range drone strikes, the ISW said.

Moscow had lost control of around 120 square kilometres (46 square miles) in April, the first month in which its forces gave up more ground than they captured for two and a half years.

William Spaniel has a rather good analysis on this and how it will go forward:



A Russian lt general has been blown up with a car bomb. They usually only do this for war crimes so he probably did something

https://bsky.app/profile/antongerashchenko.bsky.social/post/3mnuaca3eb22p