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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Zkuq said:

bUT UkRAINe ISN't a reAL couNTRY. Seriously, the greatest threat to Putin probably comes from Ukraine. I still don't think there's particularly strong opposition to him in Russia, although some discontent must be spreading among the elite as well.

Not from the public, that's for sure.

But about his siloviki and other persons of power in Russia, I wouldn't think it would be past them to do something about Putin if the war turns sideways or if the economy starts to truly tank. Especially the more nationalist ones who are anti-immigrants (Putin has let millions of foreigners settle in Russia to combat the population curve) or military hardliners (who want to send more troops into Ukraine by mobilizing the population or even considering more destructive measures, like nukes) could become a problem, and both would be even worse than Putin on a world stage.

I know. I think Putin might be the least bad option unless the society of Russia goes through a significant change as well, because it's probably going to take a ruthless approach to replace him, even after his presidency ends. Honestly, the best chance of Russia getting better is probably its leadership making life in the country so miserable that the people force a leadership change big time and manage to get someone actually better in power (and to be honest, even then it's probably going to be some manipulative person that gets in power).



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Latest Kings & Generals video about the war in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri2jEzL6k6s

Russia's terrain gains are getting smaller and smaller, and Ukraine also could make some gains in the northwest.

More to the point, Russia's Economy seems to be eroding fast, with lots of closures, unpaid salaries and over 100k in layoffs for the first quarter alone due to this. Additionally the inflation is rising, making whatever those who still have a lob and get paid earnings be worth even less than before.

Worse, the federal deficit of Russia hit 61 Billion dollars - when the expectation was 50 Billions for the entire year. All while Putin's approval ratings are dropping, recruitment slowing down despite Russia investing more per soldier to recruit them, and this on the backdrop of increasing losses per day.

If this continues, then Putin will be sitting between a rock and hard place: He will have no choice to keep the numbers up in Russia than carrying another round of deeply unpopular mobilization - a mobilization which would make the economic woes gat rapidly worse due to increased pays for soldiers while even less income from the economy.

Speaking of the economy, production of oil dropped by about 500k barrels YoY due to the Ukrainian attacks on production facilities, so despite the high oil price Russia can't really profit much from this.

Finally, European support is ramping up sharply, and I don't just mean the 90 Billion € "loan" (Ukraine only has to pay it back with Russian war reparations, if there won't be any, or not enough to cover the loan, then Ukraine doesn't have to pay it back), but also lots of military hardware, especially Air defense and drones:

36 Iris-T systems and 400M€ worth of Tridon Mk2 are nothing to scoff at, the latter being highly useful against drones while the former helps defending against cruise missiles and the like. The latter is also true with the GEM-T missiles, which are patriot missiles to be used against ballistic missiles (the T stands for tactical, so things like SCUDs and their successors). The long-range weapon production support will further hurt the Russian economy with long-range targeting.

But the standout is probably the UK's pledge for 120k long-range drones this year alone. If they'll manage to follow through with that, then Russia will get inundated by Ukrainian drones, which already have the advantage again both due to Russia losing Starlink access and due to their drones having over twice the range or the Russian ones, meaning they can attack much deeper into Russian lines and take them out before they ever reach the front.

All in all, the initiative seems to be slowly shifting towards Ukraine, and Russia's economy is increasingly living on borrowed time. If this shift continues then Russia will have very dark days ahead.



Disturbing. Hopefully they stay inside Russia but I can see them expanding into the occupied territories.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5p306l7weo



SecondWar said:

Disturbing. Hopefully they stay inside Russia but I can see them expanding into the occupied territories.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5p306l7weo



Russia, we refer to them as orcs but they are earning that over and over. They need a true democracy and a relaxation of this need for physical virility and traditional values. It’s like Russia got overrun by a MAGA-like ideology and now they are suffering because of that. 



SecondWar said:

Disturbing. Hopefully they stay inside Russia but I can see them expanding into the occupied territories.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5p306l7weo

Russia being actively against LGBTQ communities was something I knew, but having such attack dogs in cahoots with the Police and government is new to me.

Also, 200 hours of community work over having a cross in a nightclub???