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Bandai would be a good fit.
They could probably get NISAmerica for the change in their sofa cushions.
Gust and or Koei would probably settle for a ham sandwich.

Get the small anime companies and go hard. Work out a deal with Nintendo where you can share these small companies like baseball cards.



You are bound to love Earthbound.

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twintail said:
mjk45 said:

I just pity the dude who decides they need to buy EA unless they can get a discount on their reputation, come to think about it maybe MS got a Bobby Kotick discount.

EA is not necessarily a bad get. They have content geared towards online, which is something Sony is lacking in (yet their deals with start up studios seem to be to cover this)

I was being facetious, and thinking about EA's much touted reputation over the years for being the worst Videogame company in the world until recently anyway.

I would much prefer that this sort of aggressive buying stopped, but who knows there has to be a tipping point where Sony does a similar deal not in terms of outlay but in terms of numbers of IP's I expect that say that even capcom and square combined would cost considerably less.

People talk about Take Two, I feel like but I could be wrong, that Take Two really dont have the large portfolio of Ip's like EA and Activision and after GTA RRD Bioshock and NBA2k it falls away with Borderlands only being published and historically their roi and profits doesn't seem that great compared to the number of games that those Ip's sell.

My feeling is we may have to wait till after Spartacus is launched to get an indication into what direction Sony is heading.

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BasilZero said:
SegaHeart said:

I think I second konami though IDK what they do with Pachinko division? but I guess Konami should cost less and Metal Gear solid series sells a ton , more than the other japanese companies games except capcom's Monster Hunter or Square Enix games . Would be great to have Kojima work on Metal Gear again.

There's nothing wrong with continuing the Pachinko side, pretty sure Konami still makes decent amount for them to have support it for years.

The real wealth comes from the IPs that Konami really hasnt been working on other than porting over older titles in collections.

-Metal Gear
-Castlevania
-Silent Hill
-Suikoden
-Bloody Roar
-Frogger
-PES
-Zone of the Enders
-Yu-Gi-Oh
-Bomberman
-Gradius
-Lost in Blue
-Beatmania

None of these IPs are getting much attention to in the first place - so some attention from Sony could help.

They could also establish Konami as the Japanese front for game development from the region since Sony barely has a Japanese front nowadays with their focus on western games.

It could help games that were originally Japanese from Sony's side like the Ico/SotC/Last Guardian, Gravity Rush, Wild Arms, Arc the Lad and Dark Cloud series.

Providing they dont get axed to the side like what happened to the group that made Ico/SotC and Last Guardian

Konami , owns hudson soft and hudson soft made the incredible game Bulk Slash on Sega Saturn.



Cute and honest Sega Saturn fan, also noone should buy Sega grrrr, Sega for life.

No. Stop buying everything. Leave big publishers alone. As for Konami, the only people who should buy Konami is something like Kadawowa. Not a console maker.

Btw Yes I love Bulk Slash. I own the Japanese version and the unofficial English version.

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mjk45 said:
twintail said:

EA is not necessarily a bad get. They have content geared towards online, which is something Sony is lacking in (yet their deals with start up studios seem to be to cover this)

I was being facetious, and thinking about EA's much touted reputation over the years for being the worst Videogame company in the world ,until recently I would much prefer that this sort of aggressive buying stopped, but who knows there has to be a tipping point where Sony does a similar deal not in terms of outlay but in terms of numbers of IP's I expect that say that even capcom and square combined would cost considerably less.

People talk about Take Two but I feel like but I could be wrong feel that Take Two rely dont have the large portfolio like EA and Activision and after GTA RRD Bioshock and NBA2k it falls away with Borderlands only being published and historically their roi and profits doesn't seem that great compared to the number of games that those Ip's sell.

My feeling is we may have to wait till after Spartacus is launched to get an indication into what direction Sony is heading.

fair enough. I agree with your feelings on Spartacus. I think we need to know more about it to judge what Sony might be willing to do.

Leynos said:

No. Stop buying everything. Leave big publishers alone. As for Konami, the only people who should buy Konami is something like Kadawowa. Not a console maker.

Konami seems like a pretty worthless get. Like, sure they have some valuable IPs, but their development structures seem to be incredibly lacking at the moment. You'd need to get studios to actually make these games and I doubt many 1st party studios are going to want to, and how many 3rd party studios will step in to pick up the IPs?



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At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony acquire both Capcom & Square Enix, or even looking towards Take Two. The rules of engagement have changed and Sony is certainly not ignoring that.

While they don't have the Microsoft war chest, Sony is certainly capable of making a few massive but strategic publisher acquisitions, to solidify their spot in the industry and to further adapt to industry consolidation.



I really don't think sony would make any move unless their hardware and software sales get affected, microsoft is aiming to be the netflix of videogames, the only reason of their adquisitions is in order to boost gamepass subscriptions not to sale more consoles, while sony's goal is just to sell more hardware and software.



MS crossed the line with this one. Heck, they leaped over it, Olympic record style.

MS isn't buying non Western devs/pubs for whatever reason, so it's kinda unlikely that SNY has to worry too much about losing those types of franchises to MS.

The way I'd solve this at SNY, is to buy Take Two. That alone is the only purchase they'd need, assuming MS doesn't later start acquiring big non Western devs/pubs.

Acti/Bliz had a 64B market cap, which is why MS paid somewhere between 64B-70B for them. You typically have to pay a bit of a premium over the market cap.

Take Two has a 17B market cap. SNY should be able to acquire them for $20B, but it would pretty much take everything they could throw at the deal to make it happen.

It would be worth it for GTA alone. The income, but more importantly, the mind share. GTA 6 (timed) exclusivity on PS5 would squash everything MS has done so far.

MS could go out and buy EA and UBI after this and it wouldn't change the market mind share. SNY would have it locked down for this gen.

SNY wouldn't even have to make it totally exclusive. Just timed exclusive to some degree, and a few free in game multiplayer perks for buying it on PS. Problem solved.

Imagine GTA 6, PSVR first person exclusivity.



mjk45 said:

I was being facetious, and thinking about EA's much touted reputation over the years for being the worst Videogame company in the world until recently anyway.

I would much prefer that this sort of aggressive buying stopped, but who knows there has to be a tipping point where Sony does a similar deal not in terms of outlay but in terms of numbers of IP's I expect that say that even capcom and square combined would cost considerably less.

People talk about Take Two, I feel like but I could be wrong, that Take Two really dont have the large portfolio of Ip's like EA and Activision and after GTA RRD Bioshock and NBA2k it falls away with Borderlands only being published and historically their roi and profits doesn't seem that great compared to the number of games that those Ip's sell.

My feeling is we may have to wait till after Spartacus is launched to get an indication into what direction Sony is heading.

Take Two would be the best case scenario for Sony when it comes to publisher acquisitions. GTA, while not having annual releases like COD, is the largest video game IP outside of Mario, and GTA:O has been making bank for nearly a decade. Not to mention the RDR franchise which is arguably bigger than Call of Duty as well. It would swing the pendulum back in Sony's favor. 

Sony would also get Bully, NBA2K, Bioshock, Sid Meier's Civilization, Borderlands, Max Payne, Manhunt, Midnight Club, among other smaller titles, to strengthen their IP catalog, which leads to a stronger Spartacus initiative, and provides a ton of multi media properties to adapt. And we can't forget about Zynga which fits Sony's push into mobile gaming.



XDKrieg33 said:

I really don't think sony would make any move unless their hardware and software sales get affected, microsoft is aiming to be the netflix of videogames, the only reason of their adquisitions is in order to boost gamepass subscriptions not to sale more consoles, while sony's goal is just to sell more hardware and software.

Losing Activision Blizzard will impact Playstation's bottom line and Sony knows that. There is a very real chance Microsoft retains market dominance in NA/UK having an exclusive Call of Duty game every year. 

It might be a tough pill to swallow for some, but if Sony doesn't make any big moves, they're going to end up as a third party publisher.