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Forums - Sony Discussion - (Rumor - Jason Schreier) PlayStation Plans New Service to Take On Xbox Game Pass?

gtotheunit91 said:
SKMBlake said:

If it replaces PS+, you'll have around 40+ million users easy. No need for 1$ conversion.

MS is having this odd situation where it keeps Gold alive but GPU gives also access to multiplayer.

I mean just look at Nintendo: 32 million subscribers to have access to a laggy multiplayer and SNES/NES games

The report is saying that it'll be replacing PS Now out but PS+ will be retained, so PS+ will still be its own thing? 

This is definitely one of those that I need to see how Sony pitches this. Especially if there's going to be multiple tiers. I'm guessing the current PS+ will be the lowest tier going up to PS+++ LOL 

Nintendo bent our arms on their service because it's not just games. They tied the multiplayer and cloud saves to the service. So a lot of people may have cared more about multiplayer access playing Smash, Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing, while also worrying about breaking their console and losing their saves. 

3 tiers:

1) PS+,

2) The above and the PS Collection on PS5 (with more games I imagine),

3) The above with extended demos, streaming, and BC.

SvennoJ said:

Sounds more like rebranding, getting rid of the PS Now name and put everything under PS+ while adding an extra tier.

Anyway Sony won't beat 3 months of game pass for $1. And I doubt Sony will add 1st party games day one, or only to the highest tier.

Probably not. I don't think it'll matter too much for Sony. GamePass has already shown that ppl are willing to jump onto this kind of service. There's no need for Sony to do such extravagant $1 deals, but it would def be nice if they did.

Sogreblute said:

If this is true the classic titles (PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP) better be native/emulated. I have a feeling those games will be stream only and that alone will make people not use the service.

Can't say I agree. native/ emulation is just going to make the list incredibly anemic, and take years for stuff to come out. Streaming the originals is a far better solution, albeit without ownership potential. Granted, I understand that streaming viability for everyone is not the same.  

fauzman said:

Fingers crossed this is extended to a whole lot more countries. I still dont have PS Now here in NZ and see the limited numver of countries as one of the main issues with the current subscription.

I imagine this has to be the plan, but yeah: PS Now needs to get into all areas that PlayStation serves. 



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$49 - PS Pass - (basically old PS Plus)
$99 - PS Pass Plus - (adds BC and PS Now)
$149-PS Pass Premium - (adds game previews and early access, some non gaming entertainment services)->(Maybe day 1 exclusive new IP?)

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 04 December 2021

EricHiggin said:

$49 - PS Pass - (basically old PS Plus)
$99 - PS Pass Plus - (adds BC and PS Now)
$149-PS Pass Premium - (adds game previews and early access, some non gaming entertainment services)->(Maybe day 1 exclusive new IP?)

The article writes that BC is part of the highest tier, which is where I imagine it would go. If ppl really want it, they'll pay premium for it. 



twintail said:
EricHiggin said:

$49 - PS Pass - (basically old PS Plus)
$99 - PS Pass Plus - (adds BC and PS Now)
$149-PS Pass Premium - (adds game previews and early access, some non gaming entertainment services)->(Maybe day 1 exclusive new IP?)

The article writes that BC is part of the highest tier, which is where I imagine it would go. If ppl really want it, they'll pay premium for it. 

Well I figured since MS is offering BC completely free, $99 wouldn't be bad, and it's not like SNY has to put all BC games on there asap. 

The $99 level could be streaming only. In the $149 level you could add native/emulated BC. Again, not necessarily all BC games at launch.

SNY could just add more BC games as time goes on, or cycle through them over time.



Unless they start releasing AAA and 1st party content day and date, it won't be a Game Pass rival, and that's fine.



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EricHiggin said:

$49 - PS Pass - (basically old PS Plus)
$99 - PS Pass Plus - (adds BC and PS Now)
$149-PS Pass Premium - (adds game previews and early access, some non gaming entertainment services)->(Maybe day 1 exclusive new IP?)

A slightly different take. Perhaps leave Plus alone, and better compete with both Nin and MS online options and pricing.

$29 - PS Pass - (basic online gaming access)

$69 - PS Pass Plus - (PS Plus as it exists with it's online access, free games, and discounts)

$149 - PS Pass Premium - (PS Plus, PS Now, BC, day 1 exclusive new IP, previews and early access, VIP discounts)

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 04 December 2021

I wonder if "highest tier" means the most expensive tier.



My prediction in 2021.

SW: 30m

PS5 16m

XBS: 7.5m

Honestly doesn't sound too appealing



SKMBlake said:

I dunno I read that PS+ and Now will merge, but maybe I read it wrong.

And my point was/is: neither Sony nor Nintendo need to do as much as efforts than Microsoft to make people buy their stuff/selling their services, because they are both currently very successful

My guess is the tiers would be like this:

Tier 1: $60 - Basically PS Plus as it is now.

Tier 2: $80 - Basically just PS Plus and PS Now together. I'm guessing all 1st party games launched in the first year of the PS5's life would be put on it.

Tier 3: $100 - All of the above, plus regularly added PS1, PS2, and PSP games. With those games most likely emulated with higher resolution and higher frame rates like the PS2 games are on PS Now.

Alternatively, I could see see them doing:

Tier 1: $30-$40 - Only online multiplayer and online saves.

Tier 2: $60 - Effectively the same as PS Plus, now, with the added games monthly.

Tier 3: $80-$100 - PS Plus and PS Now together, but just with a bunch more early PS5 games and newly added PS1, PS2, and PSP emulation.

Either way, I'm game.



Not selling portables anymore, Sony could add as a distinctive bonus feature Android and iOS support for any PSP and PSV game, but also a selection of PSOne, PS2, PS3 and PS4 ones that could be ported and made playable with enjoyable gameplay on them. Just copying MS Game Pass model could damage some high budget SP 1st party games revenue, Sony needs ways to make up for it, and supporting MS strongest competitors in the OS market could be a cunning way.



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