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In addition to how well Witcher 3 ran on Switch, I bought the Outer Worlds expecting an absolute shitshow from the early impressions of the Switch version. I actually enjoyed it on Switch.



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The amount of 3rd party support. Sure it has some AAA ports. But I know a system truly makes it when it's filled to the brim of obscure games. Indie. Japan or otherwise. Think PS2 or PS1 amount of games and so many lesser-known ones. Which means a lot of hidden gems. Switch is also loaded with arcade games old and new. Saturn ports. Shmups. It has about every genre in spades except sports sims. It's why I love the system so much. Not since SNES can fill a collection on a shelf from a Nintendo home console and not have many if any Nintendo 1st party games. (I do own a few) . I do own about 120 physical games.

Then Switch can be played in Tate mode which is awesome for old arcade games. Switch is next to Saturn as my fave system to import games for. Always finding something new and interesting.


I don't want any other kind of system from Nintendo. The Switch idea is perfect. So next time I just want the same idea just more powerful with some extra basic features.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

SanAndreasX said:

In addition to how well Witcher 3 ran on Switch, I bought the Outer Worlds expecting an absolute shitshow from the early impressions of the Switch version. I actually enjoyed it on Switch.

Make that two of us, I also played and enjoyed The Outer Worlds on Switch. Honestly, while it may be a bit rough, it's nowhere near as bad a port as its made to be, especially after the patching it received post-launch.



Golf Story was a surprise that brought me a lot of joy and I have very fond memories of it.



The huge bumper crop of RPGs. I’ve got more RPGs on Switch than I did on SNES, PS1, and PS2 combined.



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Sorry didn't realize this was just for a game.


Daemon X Machina and Astral Chain. Some of my fave games on the system and 2 games I would not expect for a Nintendo console and for Nintendo to publish. DXM is not a full Armored Core or a full ZOE but it's a nice mix and a damn fun game. Astral Chain is just an amazing love letter to everything PG made previously. Also a nice love letter to 80s and 90s anime. Mainly Eva but without the depression or hospital scene lol.



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SKMBlake said:
Jumpin said:

You are still mistaken. It's not remade in the style of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or Torna. It is the original Xenoblade Chronicles remastered with a new expansion (Future Connected) included.

I'm unsure if you have never played the Xenoblade Chronicles games before, or if you just have some misconceptions.

Porting to an updated/different engine doesn't make a game a remake.
Not all remasters are "1080@60fps" - that's just optimal for HD TV displays.
Xenoblade Chronicles DE isn't 360p at 20 FPS. It's 720p at 30FPS.
Adding an epilogue isn't remaking a game, it's expanding a game.

I'll try to explain.

No need. I am very well aware of the differences, and it's ok to be wrong.

I suppose you're one of the ones considering Crash trilogy, Tony Hawk 1+2 or Spyro trilogy as remaster as well while FF7 remake is "a remake since it's in the title".

Heck, I even saw people calling Super Mario All Stars and Demon's Souls PS5 a remaster

It's alright to be mistaken. Clearly, it was a little more than that on your end. You were trying to argue your point in bad faith even after you were shown to be wrong.

I'd say the only reason you admitted to being wrong was because I posted a Digital Foundry article and an interview with the developers, where they explain remaster treatments. (Which you even cut out of your response for some reason)

You'd otherwise have waffled on as long as you could, and your next paragraph shows it by spitting out one of the most ridiculous strawman arguments I've ever seen: "I suppose you're one of the ones considering () FF7 remake is "a remake since it's in the title"."

Are you for real? Come on! :D

FF7R might be the most well known remake in video game history. It was famous years before it was even announced.
The reason people call Final Fantasy 7R a remake because that's what it is - a remake of Final Fantasy 7. Even if "Remake" wasn't in the title, we'd still know it was a remake of FF7 because it's obviously a remake of FF7. So obvious Square Enix put it in the title. It's probably the most recognizable example of a remake among video games today.

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SanAndreasX said:

The huge bumper crop of RPGs. I’ve got more RPGs on Switch than I did on SNES, PS1, and PS2 combined.

This one for me too. Entirely true!

Even if you were a big importer, the Switch (without importing) has many more RPGs on it than any other console before it, including SNES and PSX.



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FF7R is a Reimagining/Reboot, not a remake. They changed about every aspect of the story and mechanics. Xenoblade DE took the frame of Xenoblade and rebuilt it. New geometry. New engine. New character models. QoL improvements and another 10-hour story mode. They remade the original game on the old frame and added to it. In the 1940s the White House was gutted of every room, wall, and floor. The building was an empty husk and the interior was rebuilt. Only the outer shell remained the same. So That's what happened with Xenoblade. It's the age-old question how many planks are replaced on a boat before it becomes a new boat and stops being the original?

Maybe we can change the definition to a remodel. When you remodel a room you keep the studs and floor, just the frame of the room but redo everything else. Trials of Mana is a remake. It's more or less the same game in 3D. FF7R tho. The Lost in Space show on Netflix. It's not a remake even tho the core elements are there. Robinsons. Jupiter 2. Robot. Everything else is reimagined into a reboot. Same with FF7R.

Also, FFR is not the most famous "remake". Super Mario All-Stars. Resident Evil 2002.

If you think because they added the title "remake" makes it a remake well guess what. 7th gen HD remasters were often called remakes on the box even tho they were not. The problem is the industry is fucked up with all definitions. DMC HD collection. Remaster. Trials of Mana. Remake. FF7R. Reimagining. Xenoblade DE. Remodel.

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Jumpin said:

FF7R might be the most well known remake in video game history. It was famous years before it was even announced.
The reason people call Final Fantasy 7R a remake because that's what it is - a remake of Final Fantasy 7. Even if "Remake" wasn't in the title, we'd still know it was a remake of FF7 because it's obviously a remake of FF7. So obvious Square Enix put it in the title. It's probably the most recognizable example of a remake among video games today.

That says a lot about your conception of what is a remake and what is a remaster.

And no, FF7 Remake isn't a remake, rather a reimagination of the game. Demon's Souls is a remake.