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No game reaching 73k physical and only four games passing 50k physical in the system's first full year is pretty alarming. Even if we assume a high digital rate, that's still shockingly low.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

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You're still missing PS4 software bought, F2P games (the biggest games on the market) and scalper ratio lol



If we only got confirmation that Apex was downloaded a million times on PS5 these software sales wouldn't look so bad.



src said:

You're still missing PS4 software bought, F2P games (the biggest games on the market) and scalper ratio lol

PS4 packaged software sales are collapsing in Japan.

The whole PlayStation ecosystem (PS4/PS5) shrunk by 54.34% YoY in the first half of the current fiscal year:

(tracker: Famitsu)

Last edited by Endymion - on 29 November 2021

Endymion said:
src said:

You're still missing PS4 software bought, F2P games (the biggest games on the market) and scalper ratio lol

PS4 packaged software sales are collapsing in Japan.

The whole PlayStation ecosystem (PS4/PS5) shrunk by 54.34% YoY in the first half of the current fiscal year:

(tracker: Famitsu)

exactly, even if people were buying PS4 versions of games instead of PS5 ones, it would still be a huge decline when compared to the previous gen transition in 2014/2015 for example in 2014 PS3 managed over 4.5 million sales just across it's Top 30 games of that year, PSV managed over 2 million across it's top 15 and PS4 contributed over 1.5 million across it's top 20 titles, without even counting Knack during it's first full year on the market:

PS4 Feb 2014/Feb 2015 Top 20(Launch year):

  1. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (Konami) - 144.798
  2. Grand Theft Auto V (Take Two) - 144.428
  3. Yakuza: Ishin! (Sega) - 129.307
  4. Destiny (Sony) - 119.707
  5. Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) - 107.282
  6. Watch Dogs (Ubisoft) - 95.490
  7. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Square Enix) - 92.593
  8. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix) - 79.009
  9. FIFA 14 (Electornic Arts) - 70.622
  10. The Evil Within (Bethesda) - 70.272
  11. Far Cry 4 (Ubisoft) - 57.508
  12. Infamous: Second Son (Sony) - 56.319
  13. Assassin's Creed: Unity (Ubisoft) - 51.109
  14. Killzone: Shadow Fall (Sony) - 46.295
  15. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse (Bandai Namco) - 44.642
  16. Winning Eleven 2015 (Konami) - 42.917
  17. Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (Square Enix) - 41.849
  18. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (Ubisoft) - 41.339
  19. Dragon Age: Inquisition (Electronic Arts) - 39.760
  20. Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends (Koei Temco) - 39.371

TOTAL: 1.514.617

This year it seems that PS4/PS5 will struggle to hit 5 million combined across all their titles with digital. 

PlayStation Ecosystem Top 50 Famitsu 2021(Unofficial Ranking):

  1. [PS4] Tales of Arise (Bandai Namco) - 213.474
  2. [PS4] Resident Evil Village (Capcom) - 191.983
  3. [PS4] NieR Replicant (Square Enix) - 158.265
  4. [PS4] Lost Judgment (Sega) - 151.039
  5. PS4] Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Aniplex) - 131.272
  6. [PS4] Tsukihime (Aniplex) - 80.042
  7. [PS4] Super Robot Wars 30 (Bandai Namco) - 74.036
  8. [PS5] Resident Evil Village (Capcom) - 72.761
  9. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 5 (Koei Tecmo) - 72.727
  10. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Dark (Nihon Falcom) - 60.435
  11. [PS5] Tales of Arise (Bandai Namco) - 60.106
  12. [PS4] Judgment [New Price Edition] (Sega) - 53.086
  13. [PS4] Far Cry 6 (Ubisoft) - 51.764
  14. [PS4] Call of Duty: Vanguard (Sony) - 45.195
  15. [PS4] FIFA 22 (Electronic Arts) - 45.058
  16. [PS5] Lost Judgment (Sega) - 36.584
  17. [PS4] Scarlet Nexus(Bandai Namco) - 31.665
  18. [PS5] Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Square Enix) - 30.984
  19. [PS4] Biomutant (THQ Nordic) - 30.292
  20. [PS4] Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water (Koei Tecmo) - 28.322
  21. [PS5] Judgement: Remastered [New Price Edition] (Sega) - 26.292
  22. [PS4] Battlefield 2042 (Electronic Arts) - 25.268
  23. [PS4] Back 4 Blood (Warner) - 25.173
  24. [PS4] Little Nightmares II (Bandai Namco) - 24.968
  25. [PS5] Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Aniplex) - 24.727
  26. [PS5] Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (Sony) - 24.385
  27. [PS5] Battlefield 2042 (Electronic Arts) - 21.637
  28. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War (Sony) - 20.995
  29. [PS5] Far Cry 6 (Ubisoft) - 20.085
  30. [PS4] Neptunia x Senran Kagura: Ninja Wars (Compile Heart) – 18.789
  31. [PS4] Disgaea 6 (Nippon Ichi) - 18.289
  32. [PS5] Ghost of Tsushima - Director's Cut (Sony) - 17.271
  33. [PS4] Blue Reflection: Second Light (Koei Tecmo) - 16.701
  34. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War (Sony) - 16.454
  35. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 16.352
  36. [PS4] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin (Marvelous) - 16.235
  37. [PS5] Call of Duty: Vanguard (Sony) - 16.224
  38. [PS4] Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection (Koei Tecmo) - 14.483
  39. [PS4] NieR: Automata - GotY Edition (Square Enix) - 13.712
  40. [PS4] Guilty Gear - Strive (Arc System) - 13.574
  41. [PS4] Winning Post 9 2021 (Koei Tecmo) - 13.221
  42. [PS5] Scarlet Nexus (Bandai Namco) - 12.785
  43. [PS4] Dragon Quest X: Heavenly Heroes Online (Square Enix) - 11.791
  44. [PS4] The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails (Nihon Falcom) - 11.230
  45. [PS4] The Quintessential Quintuplets (5pb.) - 10.378
  46. [PS4] Utawarerumono: ZAN 2 (Aqua Plus) - 10.241
  47. [PS4] Nioh 2 - Complete Edition (Koei Tecmo) - 9.969
  48. [PS4] NEO: The World Ends With You (Square Enix) - 9.248
  49. [PS5] Returnal (Sony) - 9.148
  50. [PS4] R-Type Final 2 (Granzella) - 8.693

TOTAL: 2.117.408
TOTAL PS4: 1.723.424 (81.4%)
TOTAL PS5: 393.984 (18.6%)

I don't think physical sales across the Top 50 for the PS4/PS5 are very likely to surpass 2.5 million, nothing much releasing until the end of the year.
Last year just across the Top 37 titles on the PS4 that made the Famitsu Top 100, the PS Ecosystem managed over 4.97 million.

Last edited by noshten - on 29 November 2021

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Beaten to it but I was gonna say, even if PS5 owners in Japan are buying PS4 games to play on their new system, which I'm sure they are, PS4 software sales aren't exactly booming.

PS is about as close as its ever been to being irrelevant in Japan.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

theDX said:

If we only got confirmation that Apex was downloaded a million times on PS5 these software sales wouldn't look so bad.

1 million lmao. Apex has 40 Million monthly active users and its not even the most popular F2P game. Warzone has 110M and Fortnite has 80M.

50% of Fortnite's revenue came from PS4 alone. The F2P scene is massive.

Endymion said:
src said:

You're still missing PS4 software bought, F2P games (the biggest games on the market) and scalper ratio lol

PS4 packaged software sales are collapsing in Japan.

The whole PlayStation ecosystem (PS4/PS5) shrunk by 54.34% YoY in the first half of the current fiscal year:

(tracker: Famitsu)

And yet even a small ratio results in a massive tie ratio change for PS5.

For instance if 20% of PS4 games where bought by PS5 owners that results in a near 100% increase in software sales.



src said:
theDX said:

If we only got confirmation that Apex was downloaded a million times on PS5 these software sales wouldn't look so bad.

1 million lmao. Apex has 40 Million monthly active users and its not even the most popular F2P game. Warzone has 110M and Fortnite has 80M.

50% of Fortnite's revenue came from PS4 alone. The F2P scene is massive.

I was obviously talking about Japan.



theDX said:
src said:

1 million lmao. Apex has 40 Million monthly active users and its not even the most popular F2P game. Warzone has 110M and Fortnite has 80M.

50% of Fortnite's revenue came from PS4 alone. The F2P scene is massive.

I was obviously talking about Japan.

Yeah, I'm saying there's way more than a million F2P console gamers in Japan. Warzone, Fortnite, Apex and PUBG are extremely popular in Japan.



src said:
theDX said:

I was obviously talking about Japan.

Yeah, I'm saying there's way more than a million F2P console gamers in Japan. Warzone, Fortnite, Apex and PUBG are extremely popular in Japan.

On PS5?