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How much would you spend a year for all previous gens?

$60 or less 27 71.05%
 
$60 or more 6 15.79%
 
$120 or more 3 7.89%
 
$180 or more 1 2.63%
 
$240 or more 0 0%
 
$300 or more 1 2.63%
 
Total:38

I chose the lowest amount listed in the poll.  I have all of Nintendo's previous hardware hooked up in my home if I ever want to play them.  It's nice to also be able to play them out of the house, so that being said, I will upgrade for the N64 and Genesis games.  But, I'm not looking to pay over $100 per year for the service to add more legacy consoles when I already have so many new Switch games that I still need to play and more coming out and adding to that backlog all the time.



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Dulfite said:
Chrkeller said:

Wii VC migrated to Wii U.  

The Wii U was built with the ability to function as a Wii, so it was probably very easy for them to move it to that. Switch is very different to Wii/Wii U (not that I'm excusing it). I think the main reason they haven't is because they have done the research, looked at the data, and realized they make more money this way.

Option 1: Have all old games available as well as new games. Many won't buy the new one when it comes out, but will instead opt to buy one of the original, cheaper games, to try it/them out and see if they like how those games feel. They may like it/them, or they may not. If they don't, they probably won't buy the more expensive, modern game, so Nintendo makes $7.99 on the old game sale and loses $59.99 on a new game sale. I certainly have done this, as I enjoy playing games chronologically, or trying out cheaper options to make sure I like the series' formula. Final Fantasy 8 almost ruined my desire to ever play any other Final Fantasy games (tried it a few months ago). I'm sure many other people do the same thing with older, cheaper games before committing to full priced modern games.

Option 2: Only offer a select amount of games from specific platforms, ones that either are so random that there is no loss of modern game sales due to it being bad, or ones that you know are adored by the fans and won't hurt people's views of those respective series enough that they refuse to purchase the modern games. This way they make $20 a year (roughly equating to 3 virtual console purchases a year) and also aren't sabatoging modern games' potential sales.

Option 2 is probably more profitable, for starters, as I doubt the average gamer buys more than 3 old games a year. It's also safer for protecting the integrity of modern games. Think of any series that start off quite horrible but plays great with modern games. You wouldn't want people to have access to those older games if newer ones were coming out and risk that game's sales tanking.

I know all of this seems rather specific and elaborate, perhaps even crazy seeming, but multi-billion dollar companies have all sorts of think-tanks and research going on all the time into things like this that they don't reveal to the public. Again, if Nintendo is doing it this way, then that means they believe this is the way to make the most money long-term.

I can't see removing subscription services when the switch 2 is launched.  It will be a standard service on nintendo hardware moving forward just like Playstation now.



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sc94597 said:

I'd rather they bring back virtual console.

Not interested in paying for Nintendo's online beyond $20 / year at most.

The Virtual Console and WiiWare were just branding. They’ve evolved and expanded into the EShop where any company can release any of their games, current or classic regardless of previous platform. The EShop on Switch attracted more classic games than any other Nintendo console, and in a variety of different ways.

It’s a lot better this way as companies have more freedom of how they wish to disseminate their content, rather than being pigeonholed into a single method. Some, like Sega, are doing it multiple ways.

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Sega does offer their classic games in a wide variety of ways... and their games hold next to no value. Managing brand maintains value, which why Nintendo is doing what they are.

Nintendo could easily sell a classic game for $20, sega cannot.  

Disney has been doing this for decades and like it or not, but it works.



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JackHandy said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Sure. Will you pay for me? 

I once offered to buy a random kid a Gamecube on a message board back in early 2002, simply because he wanted one but was too poor to afford it. In the end, he never said yes, but the offer was valid so yeah... I have no issues helping other people out when I can.

What are you wanting, but can'f afford? Or was that all sarcasm? lol

Sarcasm, but you seems a nice guy so I will try to be nice too

Old systems that are not Playstation are incredibly rare in Brazil, many of their games were never released here. All games I've played from GameCube I've played on emulators. Unfortunately your solution would require to be american or japanese to work. Indeed in Japan this is a surprisingly cheap option, as second hand market for older system is titanic. I think the only older systems that are affordable here are DS, 3DS and Wii



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CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

You have zero evidence it won't be transferable to the Switch 2.  You are upset over something that hasn't been announced.

It's called expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

I suppose.  I don't get the point in expecting the worse.



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CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

I suppose.  I don't get the point in expecting the worse.

The point is it's been so hard to expect the best from Nintendo regarding certain things, such as Switch Online. Yes we got N64 games on Switch Online, AFTER NEARLY FOUR YEARS.

If you start expecting them to make decisions that they determine to be in their financial best interest based on their data collection and research, then you will no longer be disappointed. If they haven't made those older platforms and more games available, then there is a reason. There is also a reason they are trickling them out slowly, and only including a small selection for each platform. They aren't mindless fools. They've lasted since the 1800's, are a multi-billion dollar company, and have enough cash reserves to sustain 5-6 Wii U level financial failures before going under. They know what they are doing. For one reason or another, they believe they will make more money off modern games than by pushing older ones (I theorized one possible reason why this could be in an earlier reply to this thread).



Zippy6 said:

If Nintendo had their own version of gamepass that included all their games and select third parties (obviously less third parties than possible on xbox) then I'd be willing to pay $120/year.

For previous generations only, no more than $60/year. That's assuming it includes all of their previous generation content WiiU and prior, not just the drips Nintendo want to feed.

That's crazy, I could buy 4 or 5 second hand games per year for that price and I would own those games forever. You'd be willing to pay 120per year to own your games? That's like 6000 dollars for the next 50 years, it sounds crazy to me.



JWeinCom said:

I honestly don't care. What bothers me is that there's no option for people who just want to buy certain games, which has already existed since the Wii. There's no logical reason, aside from Nintendo making money, to lock that content behind Nintendo online.

Plenty options for free

Xbox

PC

Laptop

Phones

Tablets

Switch hacked

etc

Of course there's logical reason if you understand anything about business. If you put games for lets say 5 dollars you might get some sales, but if you force people to pay for a subscription then they will keep paying month after month after month, and they they will need to keep paying forever if they want to keep their games, but here's the trick, make online cheap to build a consumer base, and then raise the prices, consumer has 2 choices, pay more in the future or lose all their games.



Im happy that so many people are willing to pay nintendo monthly subscription for old games you could get on any phone these days. I'm happy because the more money Nintendo makes, the more games they will invest in.