Key word is understands.

MAGA, and other 'MAGA types', understand what Trumps trying to do. They understand what he's likely capable of and what he's not. They understand how likely, or unlikely, this is to succeed. And no, what MAGA says, and what they really think, are not always the exact same thing. MAGA likes to overdo it at times, and often because they're actually trolling.

The plan (yes, there has always been a general plan) was always going to be very difficult to implement, sustain, and follow through with, but not doing so was going to lead to a worse future for America, which is why it's seen by those who understand, like MAGA, as worth it.

Here's just a small explanation of a portion of the plan.

You don't understand why Trumps hurting the stock market now, while in his last term that seemed to be all he cared about. Now just imagine what would've happened in his first 100 days, in his first term, if he implemented then, what he's implementing now. Just imagine what that would've done to the stock market along with the rest of America back then. Now take into consideration the Dem and MSM Russia hoax timing, and the narrative that Trump was going to destroy America and the West (because he's a Russian asset, apparently). It's almost like the Dems knew what Trump was planning, and didn't want it to happen... Problem is while they were right, in terms of America going through some pains due to an economic change (as well as other changes), they were lying about Russia ties and were wrong on their timing. Trump was never going to do back then, what he's doing now, because America wouldn't have been able to sustain and live with it. So in that case, you build up the economy, markets, etc, as much as possible during your first term, and then bring the pain now in his second term. It's the only way this part of the plan could possibly be accomplished.

The world was always going to fight like hell against this, because not only would it mean a shift of less good for them, and more good for America (based on a certain type of global mindset anyway), but would force them to try and create new relationships and trade deals in the long term with others, or build up their own economies, to try and get back what they 'lost' to the USA. A major headache that Governments worldwide just wouldn't want to deal with.

Trumps being aggressive and kind of a dick to the world because it's causing other Countries to show their true colors. I've spoken to a few American friends about this, and I've seen plenty of Americans say the same thing in internet forums and social media, that they didn't realize how much Canadians as well as the rest of the world didn't actually like them, and they're obviously not pleased about that. Nobody who knows anything in Canada really thought Trump meant he was going to annex us. 'Elbows up' was a great campaign phrase for the Canadian Libs to help win the election, but long term politically for Canada's relationship with the USA, was really stupid. Trumps creating resilience within the American people by showing them that the rest of the world is mostly being politically correct and doesn't really like or respect the USA, and Americans in general are seeing that and don't like that. In order for this part of the plan to work, Americans have to be more resilient, united, and nationalistic, and it looks to be working, so far.

Would you like it if your country is getting called just a province or state of another country, or if your country or region gets repeatedly insulted by the government of a country?

No? Well, guess why most people now don't like the US anymore: It's because Trump's repeated annexation talks of Canada, Panama and Greenland, him constantly breaking international rules, treaties and agreements while openly insulting and even backstabbing leaders of other countries and regions and laughing about all of it. In short, Trump managed to royally piss off everyone and everybody in record time, and according to you MAGA is now making a surprised Pikachu face because they believe that they always felt bad about the US instead of being caused by Trump?

Ask yourself this: If your best friend suddenly would turn out to be a massive bully, insulting and cursing everybody left, right and center including yourself, backstabbing you and then threatening your friends with violence, would you really like to stay besties with such a person?

I typically couldn't care less because I'm not a snowflake and baseless insults are just that. However, Canada's gotten embarrassingly weak, yet acts like everything's great, so it doesn't surprise me it's getting what Trumps throwing down. It's caused a bunch of things to come to light in this Country which actually were shocking to everyone, that are being discussed and worked on now because of Trump, like the lack of interprovincial trade barriers, for one.

The "surprised Pikachu face" enough Canadians made when Trump started his trolling, wasn't a shock to Conservative Canadians, and neither was the nonsense 'elbows up' response by them to America. Plain stupidity, all of it, including our election results, yet again, not entirely surprising. Half the Country thinks they just saved themselves from being annexed by America, where if anything, they've pushed us closer to something like that.

Caused by Trump? He's not the one taking advantage of America, and it's his job to take care of America and see they get a fair shake. It would be one thing for those focusing their anger directly and only at Trump, wrong still, but there's plenty of hate going towards America in general, beyond just business and trade, and MAGA clearly see's this and yes, obviously isn't impressed, is insulted, and doesn't see the rest of the world the same. All the more reason to focus on building up America within America, where it makes sense.

If I was screwing my friend over, taking advantage of them, etc, then yes, I'd likely understand why they finally let loose and said what needed to be said. Harder to say how I would react then, trying to get out of the hole I'd dug for myself, but maybe I'd try a Pikachu face and excuses, like blaming my friend for everything bad that's ever happened. Not an easy question to answer since I'm not like that.

Unfortunately, Damien Kunek is resigning his seat in the Battle River-Crowfoot riding in Alberta to allow Pierre Poilievre to run in a special election so he can get back into Parliament.

Poilievre really is Trump-lite, and become less lite. Just like Trump, he's a sore loser who won't take "no" for an answer and keeps trying to force himself on Canada. He's also like Lauren Boebert, who was facing imminent defeat in her old congressional district and carpetbagged to an even redder district in Colorado.

Small-town mayors say it's a 'privilege Poilievre targeting seat in rural Alberta - Calgary Herald

True colours?

The idea that betrayal and threats leads to bad feelings isn't exactly a difficult concept to understand. It's common sense.

We have Americans in this forum. They're not saying what you claim they're saying.

I'm going to be more blunt than the others here, because it's obvious you're full of a shit.

Lmfao at the idea that Americans are upset because people are reacting negatively towards the fact that their leader is being a massive cunt to half of the world, that this is some master plan by Trump wherein Trump's only being a dickhead and aggressive to "expose" countries true colours and how dare people in other countries be negative towards America when America is currently treating the world like shit. Lmfao.

What a load of victim blaming horseshit.

These people culturally have main character syndrome. They feel that all 8 billion people in the world should cater to the whims of 77 million, which is less than one percent of the world's population. 

Poilievre isn't going anywhere, just like Trump didn't.

Pierre's riding had new boundaries this time and most of the new voters were Libs. That's why nobody could figure out how the votes shifted so much.

To many Canadians, especially Cons, this election feels very much like a hybrid of the USA 2020 and 2024 election as there were many similarities.

Our media coverage since the election is a dead giveaway, as it's also very similar to the aftermath of the USA 2020 election. Our media is clearly happy and relieved that the Libs won, and they're also indirectly suggesting to Cons, mostly the politicians, to move on and ditch PP. The American media did the same thing with Trump.

We all know why this is, and we all know what the outcome was. The CAN Libs know the majority reason they won the election is because of not only Trump, but what he said, and that won't be there come next election (if the world doesn't fully flip upside down that is). So unless Carney can pull a rabbit out of a hat in 3-4 years, and nobody, including the Libs, are all that confident he can, then PP and the Cons will be very likely to win the next election, because it would end up just like this election, minus Trump.

The Libs have to pray that not only will Alberta fail to vote, or vote to stay, but that Carney is also a magician. That's if there's a God to hear them and answer.

Your reasoning is based on being closer to the issue and knowing more about it. Well you're from Germany and I'm Canadian, aka Murica Lite, so.

As for the Americans here, everybody knows it's a rarity to hear a Rep speak up, whether that's because they're keeping quiet or a tiny minority.

As for the Americans who do speak up, they knew Trump was a joke in 2016 and didn't stand a chance, that he was a Russian operative, that he believes the far right are "very fine people" or that 'drinking bleach' cures Covid, that he'd never have a chance of winning again after 2020, that Biden was fine, that Kamala had the edge, etc, etc, etc.

We know one of the biggest reasons why so many independents or center left voted for Trump instead, is because they now saw what the left as a whole had become and didn't want to be part of it. Trumps words and actions caused that to become clear, because of things like the 'foundational principal' of political correctness getting tossed out the window to try and destroy Trump. Now whether they actually like Trump and think he's totally right, or whether or not they're teaching the left a lesson and trying to force them to move back to the center, that's harder to say, but it points to the same cause. When you hear the phrase, "Trumps not the cause, he's the symptom", this is what they are referring to in general. Nobody likes a cough, but it won't go away unless the cause get's taken care of.

This is also why so many Canadians who voted Con are baffled about this election outcome. Trudeau wasn't the cause, he was a symptom. Carney is just another symptom. Until the cause get's taken care of, Canada is going to have to put up with it.

I'm going to suggest you be less blunt, because that's uncalled for. You're free to your opinion, but try to be more civil about it. "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar". You should also broaden your horizons. "A healthy diet goes a long way".

The trend continues. The LPC continue to increase their support while the Cons continue to erode:

Now cons score in the 30-35 range, and the LPC are clearing 45. This means the gap has widened to the point that the LPC is getting about 30 to 50% more support than the Cons. Interesting enough, NDP is gaining increased support at the same time.

But there's more to the story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_46th_Canadian_federal_election#Leadership_polls

At the time of the election, Poilievre had 39.3% support for PM, and Carney 46.9%. Over the last two months, Poilievre's support has collapsed, dropping to 28.9% at the end of May, and 22.9% at the end of June. Polling also shows that support for Carney is high: 52% approval and 25% disapproval. But the previous poll forced an opinion, and while this brought the disapproval up to 33%, it also brought the approval up to 67%.

Economically:

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/CADUSD/?timeframe=6M

The Canadian dollar is strengthening against the USD. Over the past 6 months the CAD has risen from 68 cents to the American dollar, all the way up to 73.5 cents. Sharply reversing the downward trend the CAD had on the USD during the Biden years. This comes after Canada picked up a lot of the US's broken deals from China, the UK, the EU, and Latin American countries.

Trump is breaking deals.

Carney is making deals.