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Who will win Super Bowl LVI?

Kansas City Chiefs 2 9.09%
 
Buffalo Bills 2 9.09%
 
Baltimore Ravens 0 0%
 
Cleveland Browns 1 4.55%
 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7 31.82%
 
Green Bay Packers 3 13.64%
 
Los Angeles Rams 3 13.64%
 
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
 
Other (AFC) 3 13.64%
 
Other (NFC) 1 4.55%
 
Total:22
hatmoza said:
burninmylight said:

Is anyone watching this crazy, topsy-turvy Browns-Chargers game? Seven lead changes in the game so far, three in the fourth quarter alone.

The Browns found themselves up 42-41, but the Chargers were able to drive the ball down to the 1 with under two minutes and no CLE timeouts. LAC RB Ekeler could have ran in a TD, but slid at the 1 to burn CLE's last timeout. The very next play, the Browns DL pushed Ekeler into the endzone themselves so their offense could get the ball back for a shot! I've never seen anything like it! They escorted the guy into the endzone!

You forgot the most important part of the game. The refs. Fuck the refs. Absolutely gave the chargers the game.

On a side note, I can't believe you and others missed the London game pick. It's like everyone forgot the UK exists

More like we wish it didn't. The players and coaching staff don't like it, fans of the team that has to give up the home game don't like it because it's essentially an extra road game at the cost of another home game, and people like me who are used to knowing that Sunday football starts at the same time every week don't like it because it costs me picks.

Screw you guys. Brexit from the NFL.



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Wow nice comeback by the Ravens and I'm not just saying that because I picked them. Also my top performance of week five goes to Tom Brady with 411 passing yards and five touchdown passes. Honorable mention goes to the Bills again for beating the Chiefs 38 to 20.



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RolStoppable said:

Jon Gruden has resigned as Raiders coach.

It's odd that a society that believes in rehabilitation of criminals, including rapists and murderers, shows little to no willingness to forgive words that someone used at some earlier point in their life. All too often people get fired or essentially forced to resign by their "own" choice.

Gruden used some bad words in e-mails dating a decade back, but if he were truly a bad guy, he would have already had such a reputation because he's been in the NFL for over 20 years in one form or another. Gruden is not Dan Snyder or some such.

But this is the NFL, a sports organisation where domestic violence is considered a much greater offense than complete and utter disrespect towards the sport itself. Slapping a woman can end careers, but the usage of performance-enhancing substances gets a player about four weeks off instead of a minimum of one year like in other sports. It's not that I am okay with women getting beat up, it's just the magnitude with which different things get punished defies common sense.

Who knows, maybe there's more that will come to light about Gruden. But as it stands now, this development is pretty disappointing.

For anyone that watched Chapelle's last comedy special-- maybe one of the most significant of modern times --he ended with a monologue that touched directly on this subject. "Remember, taking a man's livelihood is akin to killing him."

Also, the NFL has proven in recent times that domestic violence is apparently far less important to them than many of these other social issues. Just a couple years ago, Tyreek Hill was recorded on tape threatening his wife (someone he'd already been charged with beating while pregnant I believe), while they were discussing the fact he'd broken his kid's arm. I don't remember him being charged with anything significant, but I guess he didn't play for the Patriots at that point either, so he didn't get hounded by the media for something like vague texts and allegations that still haven't been proven or really even discussed further.



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RolStoppable said:

EDIT: So I learned that Gruden got caught due to an investigation of the workplace conduct of the Washington Football Team, a franchise which unsurprisingly has been infested with a more than questionable culture. That's what you get with an owner like Dan Snyder. Gruden had sent e-mails to Bruce Allen; e-mails in which Gruden felt comfortable enough to talk unfiltered and that didn't only concern a couple of e-mails dating back a decade, but a whole bunch of e-mails over the course of several years.

Washington has been fined $10 million along with an agreement that owner Dan Snyder stays away from running the team for an unspecified period of time. Gruden was a circumstantial "victim" of the investigation, but given the volume of evidence against him, there has been a clear pattern established and he has no one to blame but himself. And as such, it's fair that he lost his job. He has been better at hiding his true feelings and thoughts than others in the NFL, but the cat is out of the bag now.

What Cat? Were there some emails about him arranging a secret clan meeting that I haven't seen? Even though I've seen several articles referencing the volume of rude and offensive jokes he's made, there's very few actual quotes and details about what he's said being published. From what I've read, none of them seemed any worse that the original one that made headlines, so why should it suddenly be more concerning now? Because there's more public pressure?

The one thing I've seen (and I guess it's a very recent development that's still vauge on details) that would be truly concerning is that naked photos or WFT cheerleaders (possibly taken against their will) were sent to him. Depending on his level of involvement, that would be a legit area of criminal investigation.



Apparently all of my wrong picks were non hero picks, which means quite a few people believed in them just as I did. But I happened to get them all wrong :).



RolStoppable said:

Jon Gruden has resigned as Raiders coach.

It's odd that a society that believes in rehabilitation of criminals, including rapists and murderers, shows little to no willingness to forgive words that someone used at some earlier point in their life. All too often people get fired or essentially forced to resign by their "own" choice.

Gruden used some bad words in e-mails dating a decade back, but if he were truly a bad guy, he would have already had such a reputation because he's been in the NFL for over 20 years in one form or another. Gruden is not Dan Snyder or some such.

But this is the NFL, a sports organisation where domestic violence is considered a much greater offense than complete and utter disrespect towards the sport itself. Slapping a woman can end careers, but the usage of performance-enhancing substances gets a player about four weeks off instead of a minimum of one year like in other sports. It's not that I am okay with women getting beat up, it's just the magnitude with which different things get punished defies common sense.

Who knows, maybe there's more that will come to light about Gruden. But as it stands now, this development is pretty disappointing.

EDIT: So I learned that Gruden got caught due to an investigation of the workplace conduct of the Washington Football Team, a franchise which unsurprisingly has been infested with a more than questionable culture. That's what you get with an owner like Dan Snyder. Gruden had sent e-mails to Bruce Allen; e-mails in which Gruden felt comfortable enough to talk unfiltered and that didn't only concern a couple of e-mails dating back a decade, but a whole bunch of e-mails over the course of several years.

Washington has been fined $10 million along with an agreement that owner Dan Snyder stays away from running the team for an unspecified period of time. Gruden was a circumstantial "victim" of the investigation, but given the volume of evidence against him, there has been a clear pattern established and he has no one to blame but himself. And as such, it's fair that he lost his job. He has been better at hiding his true feelings and thoughts than others in the NFL, but the cat is out of the bag now.

I'm glad that you went back and edited your email after learning more about the situation, but I'm still going to reply to a part of it while acknowledging your awareness of newfound information.

It's one thing for someone, say a young adult, to have things they said as an adolescent/teenager/late teens or early 20s adult come to light, when their collection of life experiences can be chalked up to a lack of maturity, experience and worldly knowledge. You yourself have made a thread about how you were once racist not because you just plain hate black and brown people illogically, but because your life experiences growing up in Germany gave you a poor perception of such people via the media, and you hadn't really met anyone in real life to give you reason to reassess that until the Internet.

Jon Gruden is a grown ass man in the 58th year of his life who has worked with women, people of color and members of the LGBTQ+ community for decades. He has worked in and covered an organization where the primary work force consist of colored people that have made hims tens of millions of dollars. A decade ago, he was a grown ass 48-year-old  man, not some knuckleheaded teen with his first Twitter account. He has had plenty of years on this Earth to figure out who he is and what he stands for and believes in. If that's the kind of things he says off-mic, not just one time in a moment of weakness but consciously over the course of years, then that's who he is. It's not someone found recordings of his drunk ramblings; these are emails that he had to consciously take the time to type and press Send. Typing an email should be given even more weight than shooting from the cuff with your mouth.

TL:DR - You can sum it up in two old, but timeless phrases: "You can't teach an old dog new tricks", and "Character is who you are in the dark"



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I'll take Tampa Bay for tomorrow.