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CaptainExplosion said:
Agente42 said:

AR is better for Nintendo arcade games until holograms became viable. 

But what about AR for Nintendo home console games?

Potential not fulfilled

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Nintendo have the arcade heritage and Sony/Microsoft have the Pc heritage. Nintendo consoles have aways similarites with arcade cabinets, feel arcade games and have gimmicks normaly atribuite for arcade. And Sony/Microsoft system have more in common with PC features.

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Jpcc86 said:

Whatever the case, lets hope they dont name it Switch U

They will have a bracelet that is required to wear  to play in docked mode which weighs a ton, and a leash that is required to hold during handheld that weighs as much as an anchor, and people will be like 

"Oh, I see the problem now ..."

"It's the NAME!"



CaptainExplosion said:
Agente42 said:

  

VR just doesn't work for genres that aren't in first person. The only Nintendo IP I know that could work in VR is Metroid Prime.

I'm actually disappointed that Nintendo hasn't maximized it's use of AR in mainstream gaming. Imagine something along the lines of Mario Kart Live, but for other Nintendo games and genres. There's just something that sounds fun about having Donkey Kong Country playable in my living room, or The Legend of Zelda in my basement. :)

Lots of Nintendo IP could work in VR. Nintendo already put VR modes into Mario Odyssey and BOTW and we see non FP games like Astrobot getting rave reviews too. 

Mario Kart VR is actually available in some arcade centers, it's more an experiment I guess, but people who have tried it say it's awesome. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLwqsJsEnRs

Other IP like a Pilotwings game in VR would be incredible. I think Nintendo could create a Mario VR game with different style mechanics that isn't neccessarily FP view too, again Astrobot does it. 



CaptainExplosion said:
Agente42 said:

VR is not good for gaming enough. Nintendo 3d, Miyamoto obsession may strikes again, but the Switch concept, one hybrid local coop machine go against VR focus. VR only works for a marginal peripheral, likewise on Sony devices, not a main or mandatory feature. 

VR just doesn't work for genres that aren't in first person. The only Nintendo IP I know that could work in VR is Metroid Prime.

I'm actually disappointed that Nintendo hasn't maximized it's use of AR in mainstream gaming. Imagine something along the lines of Mario Kart Live, but for other Nintendo games and genres. There's just something that sounds fun about having Donkey Kong Country playable in my living room, or The Legend of Zelda in my basement. :)

You obviously haven't play Astro it's spends the majority of its time in the 3rd person.



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Kakadu18 said:
victor83fernandes said:

What are you on? Who ever said switch was bad or not worth the money? Who is trolling? Do you even understand English? Me and the other post were praising Nintendo actually and that theres no need at all for better hardware at least for now, switch is great as it is, we just want more games that's all.

Let me quote you from the other thread about Nintendo being "out of touch":

"Games on Nintendo are not worth full price, because they cant compare graphically and performance wise to the competition, I didnt want a portable, I dont have time to play portable, I only play when I get home, so the switch is severely underpowered compared to my ps5 and even my xbox one X, why would I pay 70 euros for a game on switch in 1080p or less, that is available for 40 euros on the other consoles in 4k?

Disappointing games, the only brand new first party game worth full price is Mario odyssey for the whole generation. Breath of the wild doesn't count as its the exact same as the wiiU, the rest are ports that look no better than the wiiU, or overpriced remasters, or terrible remakes such as link to the past which is not even worth my time, let alone any money. There's no new pikmin, no new wave race, no new 3d donkey kong, no new mario kart, no new zelda, no new metroid prime, no new star fox, and other games such as smash bros, mario tennis, yoshi etc are nowhere near worth full price because they didnt change much from previous versions, its basically copy and paste, with hd graphics."

You call this praise?

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9315037

You can actually praise something and still admit its flaws, that's called unbiased opinions.

Just like I can praise ps5 for all the great improvements, and still find countless issues and flaws with it.

No device or game is perfect. Only fanboys will say something is perfect.

Nintendo switch has great amazing games, some of my all time favourites in there from any system, but it could have been a much better console for me if it was more powerful with the pro controller bundled.

Just like I give a lot of praise for Xbox series X, I think its the best console ever made, but it has many issues, lack of single player exclusives, UI too confusing and bloated, rechargeable battery should come bundled, and many more things.

I, unlike most of you here, am objective and unbiased.



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mjk45 said:
victor83fernandes said:

That's where you are wrong, the Nintendo didn't innovate with wiiU we wouldn't have the switch, we would be stuck to the same motions for years and years, people would get bored of it. The next console will be probably like the switch with something else, its evolution. 

Personally I'd prefer they put all resources into a powerful home console as I dont play portable anyway.

I personally believe that outside factors like the impact of Mobile on the handheld sector lead to the Switch rather than the Switch being a result of continuing the innovation concerning the Wii U unless you mean innovation that lead to poor sales.

those changes to the mobile market meant that Nintendo were now faced with a declining handheld market along with weak Wii U sales and while they had the resources to ride out another console with Wii U sales numbers, the down turn in both meant that change had to happen, so a unified approach with the added synergies of having one product in terms of both hardware and software development was the way forward hence the hybrid switch.

Mobile has nothing to do with console sales, mobile is a totally different market.

The switch succeeded because its a 3ds and wiiU successor combined. 3ds + wiiU account for around 94 million sales, which makes sense.

WiiU was also impacted by its name as many people though it was a new controller for the wii, had it been named differently sales would have been much higher.

If the switch was not portable it would not sell even half.



victor83fernandes said:
mjk45 said:

I personally believe that outside factors like the impact of Mobile on the handheld sector lead to the Switch rather than the Switch being a result of continuing the innovation concerning the Wii U unless you mean innovation that lead to poor sales.

those changes to the mobile market meant that Nintendo were now faced with a declining handheld market along with weak Wii U sales and while they had the resources to ride out another console with Wii U sales numbers, the down turn in both meant that change had to happen, so a unified approach with the added synergies of having one product in terms of both hardware and software development was the way forward hence the hybrid switch.

Mobile has nothing to do with console sales, mobile is a totally different market.

The switch succeeded because its a 3ds and wiiU successor combined. 3ds + wiiU account for around 94 million sales, which makes sense.

WiiU was also impacted by its name as many people though it was a new controller for the wii, had it been named differently sales would have been much higher.

If the switch was not portable it would not sell even half.

Believe want you want, but you have to be sitting under a rock to believe that Mobile has not impacted the games market, and I already gave reasons to why the Switch was the answer and the 3Ds and Wii U  combined comment is exactly why I mentioned synergies and it being the way to go, the rest of your comment is filled with what if's, meanwhile in the real world most of the casual market had moved to mobile and those headwinds along with the declining portable sales that Nintendo faced forced them to rethink their strategy and abandon their two pillar strategy and create the Switch. it had little to do with continued innovation from the Wii U which was your point.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 23 August 2021

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Didn't read all the comments here, so if someone already said this I apologize, but...

I think they're gonna come out with a "powerful" home console that only plays on your TV (I put that in quotes because I still think such a thing is subjective), and the Switch is gonna become their new "handheld" so to speak, which they will continue to upgrade in small ways, but nothing major.

Also, Switch games will be playable on the new console, but not vice versa.

Last edited by Paperboy_J - on 22 August 2021

CaptainExplosion said:
Soundwave said:

Lots of Nintendo IP could work in VR. Nintendo already put VR modes into Mario Odyssey and BOTW and we see non FP games like Astrobot getting rave reviews too. 

Mario Kart VR is actually available in some arcade centers, it's more an experiment I guess, but people who have tried it say it's awesome. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLwqsJsEnRs

Other IP like a Pilotwings game in VR would be incredible. I think Nintendo could create a Mario VR game with different style mechanics that isn't neccessarily FP view too, again Astrobot does it. 

I wish I could try Mario Kart VR, but neither of the surviving arcades I've been to have it, and I'm not able to travel very far lately.

I remember hearing about Star Wars Fighter Pods, and thought maybe that'd be a good design for a Star Fox arcade game. :)

I played, in Japan. Interesting. But not applicable on a hybrid system focus on local co-op



trunkswd said:

I am hoping Nintendo's next console is just a more powerful Switch. It doesn't need any new gimmicks, just continue with a solid games lineup. Nintendo developing for just one console instead of two has helped the first-party lineup of the Switch.

This. Before, at any given time, Nintendo was always splitting development teams and time up between a console and handheld. Maybe the new Zelda would be on 3DS - or maybe Wii. Maybe a new Metroid on GBA - or maybe GameCube. And it's not like that was ever a bad idea, but now - everything goes to Switch. It has such an incredible first-party lineup already, but the thing is, I truly believe Nintendo is just getting started with their development teams bringing a ton of original games to it.

And clearly, based on Nintendo's own data with Switch Lite sales and polls of whether people play it portable or docked, there are a LOT of people who enjoy the mobile nature of the Switch. So making a new next-gen traditional console, and no new handheld to go with it, I think is out of the question. And although there is always the possibility of Nintendo making a "docked-only" console and a dedicated handheld again in the future, I just really think that would be the wrong call.