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yvanjean said:
Shinobi-san said:

I've never heard the complaint of gameplay trailers being too long in conference. The number one complaint has always been that what we see at conferences is not representative of the final game. Whether its too many CGI trailers or misleading "in game" gameplay trailers.

 Also I think its safe to say that most gamers generally prefer an actual gameplay demo instead of CGI...

Please, some of the biggest reaction in the past E3 were logo of FFVII Remake, God of Wars 2, Metroid 4 and Fable 4. 

I think most people would like a smaller slice of game trailers either it was CGI, Gameplay or Demo; especially, if it's a game they have zero interest of playing. Seem like you guys are making the argument that you would rather see nothing or get zero announcement unless it's a gameplay demo. Which is just wrong. I think extended gameplay demo are only really important for making buying decision. Especially if the game is going to cost $70. 

Maybe others are saying that I'm not saying that. I just feel like one more proper and impressive gameplay demo running purely on Series X would do a lot more to show off the console. A good mix is what I would say is recommended. Like I said in my first post, Sony & Nintendo have gone in the complete opposite direction while MS has not.

With regards to the above mentioned titles - those were unannounced titles.

From my initial post in the thread:

" I commend MS for keeping E3 alive though and I feel that the right and most effective approach is probably a combo of the two."



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Multiplayer section was in game as they did another video for multiplayer to show what they did for it. 

JRPGfan said:

Bandorr said:

If I were asked to guess I probably would have rounded out at 10 or so. So 16 is higher than I would have guessed.
Feels higher than last year as well so that that's an improvement.

Surprised they didn't show a lot of Halo gameplay. Not only is it coming out soon, I kinda expected them to want to cover up the stink that was last year.
I expected them to poke fun at themselves even. "Before, After. Then, Now" etc etc.

Did they actually show Horizon 5 and 6?

That could be why.

Ingame graphics are maybe not as good looking, as the CGI trailers cutscenes they can show.
After last showing, maybe they are scared to show ingame gameplay graphics.  (they dont want another greg situation)

Even the multiplayer part they showed, it was mostly CGI stuff, and these short cuts, where you barely saw any gameplay.

Also odd they didnt even give a date for when the multiplayer part of Halo Infinate is comeing.

Bandorr said:

If I were asked to guess I probably would have rounded out at 10 or so. So 16 is higher than I would have guessed.
Feels higher than last year as well so that that's an improvement.

Surprised they didn't show a lot of Halo gameplay. Not only is it coming out soon, I kinda expected them to want to cover up the stink that was last year.
I expected them to poke fun at themselves even. "Before, After. Then, Now" etc etc.

Did they actually show Horizon 5 and 6?



I haven't been on these forums much for a long time... is the ignorance (mean that word in its correct definition, not as a negative one) new, or did I just not see it? People don't understand what "in-game", "in-engine", and CGI are anymore? Even big YouTubers are calling in-game thing CGI... literally says it's "IN-GAME" That means the game is running... maybe it's a cut scene, but that doesn't mean you call it a CGI trailer when it clearly tells you it isn't. If you don't like Microsoft maybe it's time you stop posting your negative comments on the Microsoft board so you can feel better about spending money on another piece of plastic. It wasn't this bad at the height of the PS360 days.



xbox , is the same old xbox. They haven't learned from their past faults, and i don't think they care. They only have gamepass on their mind. Halo is coming one year after they were suppsoed ot launch, and from what was shown, it looks like a early last gen title. Remember that first teaser that released that i think had the words " in game" footage, and how amazing it looked? And then you got forza again, flight sim for that niche group and starfield end of next year. That's 1.5 years away. So by the end of this year, only 1 big title would have released for the series s/x. That's if halo doesn't get delayed again.

Honestly this feels like last gen all over again, and sony will dominte in the exclusives department, again.



LurkerJ said:
eva01beserk said:

I would add this event as well. That start and finish of the event pure cgi wad just sad. 

I didn't want to be a downer; but I overall agree. 

Forza single handedly saved the show. It's what NFS underground should've been if the franchise was maintained properly. It's crazy how SONY let Drive Club go and not found a replacement for them yet; they are one soldier down with Forza Horizon looking that fantastic. 

I stoped caring :p But yea, I think competition is good for the industry. Even if xbox is not my prefer choice, them doing good keeps competitors on check. Not gona turn a blind eye and say all is peachy here after seeing MS do the same thing they done for a decade. A ton of third party multy plats and a few first party exclusives with zero gameplay shown that most are years away. Its just the same as last gen. Just like @KratosLives said. 

Sorry but I canot prasie forza for the same reason I canot praise COD or fifa or mlb. If that was their saving grace they got nothing. 



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Soooo loooking forward to Halo :D



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eva01beserk said:

I agree that if the content is not there make the presentation shorter or right out not have one. E3 seems to be goong away now. This has been the worst an E3 has been in a long time. Im not sure there is one showing you could say was good that cpuld have saved it. Althought I havent seen Nintendo yet as I make this coment.

So glad to be eating my own words. Nintendo more than delivered. Short presentation of mostly games that will only be available on the switch. Mostly games coming out this year. New never before anounced games coming this very year. Gameplay with tree house up the ass. Nintendo saved E3



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KratosLives said:

xbox , is the same old xbox. They haven't learned from their past faults, and i don't think they care. They only have gamepass on their mind. Halo is coming one year after they were suppsoed ot launch, and from what was shown, it looks like a early last gen title. Remember that first teaser that released that i think had the words " in game" footage, and how amazing it looked? And then you got forza again, flight sim for that niche group and starfield end of next year. That's 1.5 years away. So by the end of this year, only 1 big title would have released for the series s/x. That's if halo doesn't get delayed again.

Honestly this feels like last gen all over again, and sony will dominte in the exclusives department, again.

Forza Horizon 5 is a big title at this point its pretty much on par with Halo over 10 million people played Forza Horizon 4.



KratosLives said:

xbox , is the same old xbox. They haven't learned from their past faults, and i don't think they care. They only have gamepass on their mind. Halo is coming one year after they were suppsoed ot launch, and from what was shown, it looks like a early last gen title. Remember that first teaser that released that i think had the words " in game" footage, and how amazing it looked? And then you got forza again, flight sim for that niche group and starfield end of next year. That's 1.5 years away. So by the end of this year, only 1 big title would have released for the series s/x. That's if halo doesn't get delayed again.

Honestly this feels like last gen all over again, and sony will dominte in the exclusives department, again.

You can easily spend over a thousand hours in Forza Horizon 5.  Sony has nothing on that level of re playability when it comes to the exclusives department. 



Chris Hu said:
KratosLives said:

xbox , is the same old xbox. They haven't learned from their past faults, and i don't think they care. They only have gamepass on their mind. Halo is coming one year after they were suppsoed ot launch, and from what was shown, it looks like a early last gen title. Remember that first teaser that released that i think had the words " in game" footage, and how amazing it looked? And then you got forza again, flight sim for that niche group and starfield end of next year. That's 1.5 years away. So by the end of this year, only 1 big title would have released for the series s/x. That's if halo doesn't get delayed again.

Honestly this feels like last gen all over again, and sony will dominte in the exclusives department, again.

You can easily spend over a thousand hours in Forza Horizon 5.  Sony has nothing on that level of re playability when it comes to the exclusives department. 

Replayability??  What does it offer that I can't find? There are driving games out there that look better and multiplayer games that look more fun.