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Is Zack Snyder's Justice League better than theatrical

Yes 26 56.52%
 
No 4 8.70%
 
Don't care 11 23.91%
 
Same 5 10.87%
 
Total:46
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Where can you even watch it outside of the US?

This link can be of some use 

https://www.gamesradar.com/how-to-watch-snyder-cut-stream-justice-league-now/



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SuaveSocialist said:

70 million dollars allowed him to use three years of hindsight to change his vision into a four-hour miniseries (which by itself requires a complete retooling of the story's structure and pacing) by filming additional scenes, re-shooting existing ones, revising the script, and overhauling the VFX.  

You are certainly free to enjoy the final product, but this isn't anything close to his original vision.  It's not so much a restoration, but a do-over.

I completely agree.  I'd like to see his original script he was working with at the beginning and see how far off it was compared to this "Snyder Cut".  It'd also be funny to hear if Whedon followed Snyder's script more closely to Snyder's original vision than this Snyder Cut? loll

I read that that Future scene at the end was not originally part of his intended theater version and that was filmed just for this new version.  I wonder how many other new scenes he filmed that wasn't actually part of his "original vision".



I loved it. It was an actual story with actual motivations from each character that were well understood. The theatrical felt like a jumbled mess edited so bad that I could do a better job. Steppenwolf looked like a guy with mommy issues, Superman didn't feel like Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Flash seemed way less powerful than they are and Cyborg felt like he didn't even exist. If this 4 hour version was cut down to be like 3 hours and be the theatrical, they would've cemented DCEU as something to look out for. Sadly the abusive Joss Whedon and WB execs had their way and destroyed everyone's effort. All the actors genuinelt felt like they were putting their heart and soul into the movie with this release and the theatrical made them all look like chumps. Plus I love Martian Manhunter so for that alone, this is a hit for me.



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V-r0cK said:
SuaveSocialist said:

70 million dollars allowed him to use three years of hindsight to change his vision into a four-hour miniseries (which by itself requires a complete retooling of the story's structure and pacing) by filming additional scenes, re-shooting existing ones, revising the script, and overhauling the VFX.  

You are certainly free to enjoy the final product, but this isn't anything close to his original vision.  It's not so much a restoration, but a do-over.

I completely agree.  I'd like to see his original script he was working with at the beginning and see how far off it was compared to this "Snyder Cut".  It'd also be funny to hear if Whedon followed Snyder's script more closely to Snyder's original vision than this Snyder Cut? loll

I read that that Future scene at the end was not originally part of his intended theater version and that was filmed just for this new version.  I wonder how many other new scenes he filmed that wasn't actually part of his "original vision".

The only difference is the epilogue. That wasn't apart of the original assembly cut. He wanted to do an epilogue but he didn't get to before his daughter's passing. The epilogue he did film for this cut has two differences from what he was originally planning. The Nightmare Scene has a character that wasn't originally part of the film. The character featured in the final sequence was supposed to be someone else but the WB wouldn't let him use that character.

Spoiler!
The Joker is a new addition and John Stewart (Green Lantern) was supposed to talk to Bruce at the end of the epilogue.


GameAnalyser said:
SuaveSocialist said:

As for me, not going to bother with it.  Thanks to Wonder Woman 1984 bottoming out as Rotten (59% on the Tomatometer), I am now owed four consecutive Certified Fresh DC movies before I give anything of theirs a try, and it was Phase 1 of the Snyderverse that started this clock in the first place.  

That's not usually the way I go about here. I tend to make my opinion matter foremost( I owe that to myself) and give credit to the critiques from top critics later. 

I tried that for Phase 1, and it was done so badly that I lost confidence in DC's ability to contribute to the medium.  If they want me to invest my attention in their sprawling cinematic franchise, they will have to consistently produce quality movies (I owe it to myself to have standards if I'm going to watch a dozen interconnected movies).  Until they prove themselves able, they do not have the privilege of my time.  It's been almost eight years and they haven't even been able to release two Certified Fresh movies in a row, whereas half of their movies are rightfully considered terrible (Source:  https://www.rottentomatoes.com/franchise/dc_comics ).  

Disney managed to release three CF Star Wars movies in roughly a third of the time.  It shouldn't have been hard for DC to do the same.  Oh, well.  Maybe they'll have their act together by 2023.



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mZuzek said:
SuaveSocialist said:

Disney managed to release three CF Star Wars movies in roughly a third of the time.  It shouldn't have been hard for DC to do the same.  Oh, well.  Maybe they'll have their act together by 2023.

The last thing I'd say about Disney's Star Wars is that they "have their act together", but whatever RottenTomatoes says I guess.

However low you think that bar, it speaks poorly of DC to be unable to clear it.  The lower the bar, the less of an excuse DC has.  



DC execs really did a number on their own megafranchise. It took the likes of Zack Snyder and Greg Berlanti years to salvage their reputation. Who knows where DC would be without their awesome DCTV and DCAU sectors because DCEU really shit the bed. Aquaman, Joker, Shazam and wonder woman make me excited but then something like WW2 comes along to bring me down to earth. Thankfully I'm enjoying stuff like Superman and Lois, Black lightning, Doom Patrol, Young Justice, Harley Quinn and hopefully Green Lantern soon



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It was decent for what it was. Compared to the original, a lot better but wasn't a hard task. Compared to many Marvel offerings, weird and convoluted.



Hmm, pie.

Good movie, a solid 8/10 for me. Watched it in one go surprisingly.

I don't think this would have worked in a cinema, so I'm really happy Snyder got to do literally anything he wanted with this version.

Im a fan of Snyder, but he needs to stop listening to detractors and stay true to his vision. At the end of the day people will always find fault with it, but at least it will be cohesive.

Also, WTF was Whedon thinking??? He literally scrapped a whole movie and did ridiculous reshoots, changed important plot lines and removed all sense of character development. Wow.

Really wish we could see a continuation of this Justice League, even if it continues on HBO Max with a limited cinema release. Perhaps WB can start a new DC Cinema Universe with younger characters all round, simultaneously.



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