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DonFerrari said:
KLXVER said:

Well I disagree. Most people who dont like TLOU2 without having played it, seems to have played and enjoyed the first TLOU. Why wouldnt I think their opinion is valid if they watch a Youtuber go through the sequel? They know the gameplay pretty well. They can see what has been improved about the gameplay. They know the story as well. 

The gameplay is quite different than the first TLOU1, and most criticism comes to the story and implementation that someone just watching other playing don`t really pay attention and the points that these guys usually bring isn`t flaws but really things they didn`t like (which is fine) but to claim their are flaws and therefore doesn`t deserve the prize is wrong on that end.

In VGC we have seem many "I loved TLOU1, watched TLOU2 on youtube and hate it" that still think Abby is a transsexual for example.

That's and extremely slim few that actually think and talk about that btw. I know, because I've been watching plenty of vids that talked about TLOU2 and it's controversial points, and very, very few brought up Trans talk of Abby. IF we go by VGC alone, that's a tiny spec of san in the vast sea of the internet. 

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Today I learned that watching someone play through a game on Youtube is the same as playing it



mZuzek said:

Today I learned that watching someone play through a game on Youtube is the same as playing it

Dont know who taught you that, but its not true.



Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

The gameplay is quite different than the first TLOU1, and most criticism comes to the story and implementation that someone just watching other playing don`t really pay attention and the points that these guys usually bring isn`t flaws but really things they didn`t like (which is fine) but to claim their are flaws and therefore doesn`t deserve the prize is wrong on that end.

In VGC we have seem many "I loved TLOU1, watched TLOU2 on youtube and hate it" that still think Abby is a transsexual for example.

That's and extremely slim few that actually think and talk about that btw. I know, because I've been watching plenty of vids that talked about TLOU2 and it's controversial points, and very, very few brought up Trans talk of Abby. IF we go by VGC alone, that's a tiny spec of san in the vast sea of the internet. 

So you do agree that it is quite possible to have not played have the wrong misconception about the game and the impact of the story? And that the so called flaws you claim aren`t things you experienced first hand and quite possibly ignored the counters to them?

Abby being trans (which is something very evidently wrong, and that was brought here plenty of times) show that plenty of the so called well informed TLOU1 lovers that hate TLOU2 aren`t in fact that well informed, you could see the same for plenty of other less obvious but more frequent points that they bring.



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mZuzek said:

Today I learned that watching someone play through a game on Youtube is the same as playing it

That has been taught many times on this very site before, you already knew it!



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Chazore said:

I almost want to ask people "have you ever tried death?. You can't say much about it unless you've tried it, because I know how batshit crazy that sounds, but that's what "you can't say shit unless you've touched it with two thumbs" sounds to me, as if using those things called eyes and ears aren't something you can use already to determine is something is good or not, let alone the tongue or nose for smelling and tasting.

I can't believe in all my years that I had to actually mention something so glaringly basic, on a site like this.

Imagine ignoring all of history, because it's easy to access and view for everyone to see, but because you didn't take part in a specific era of history, you don't get to judge the rest of history, like for real, that sounds completely fucking asinine and stupid.

You are right

Why having sex with another person if i can watch some porn and spank the monkey, beat the clown , slap the ding dong . Its the same shit why bother gaming is the same.



 

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

You are right

Why having sex with another person if i can watch some porn and spank the monkey, beat the clown , slap the ding dong . Its the same shit why bother gaming is the same.

God fobid you slap the monkey.



KLXVER said:
KratosLives said:

Go and explain death stranding to someone. Do you know how many people went on to love the game after first reading about it and having doubts??  Plus it's not all about just watching, sometimes it's feeling it  for youself, and being immersed on your own. Sometimes it's the controls, or the figuring out part for yourself that is completely different to watching someone else do it.  Plus every game seems to have its high and low reviews. You don't know for sure where exactly you will fit in if you don't go in with an open mind and try it yourself. 

So if you watch a game on Youtube and you think "This game looks boring and I hate the story" all the way through. That can all change completely after playing the game for yourself? Just seems like an excuse because you yourself love the game so much. Not saying that is the case, it just kinda comes off that way.

Now TLOU2 is my GOTY, but I still think its interesting to hear from people who didnt like it. Doesnt make the game any less enjoyable to me.

Sometimes I play games and don't like the story.  Gameplay is still the saving grace, and trumps story. 

Death stranding for example, to me looked boring from what I saw online, but experiencing was totally different. The feel of the controls was tight and realistic, it was more personal when playing on my own no distractions, was immersed in the world, I had to think for my self and things were at stake. It's a totally different experience when you are given the pwer of control.  Games like minecraft and animal crossing don't appeal to me at all, and I think how on earth can someone play that, but I bet if I let my mind go play it for a few hrs there is a 50% chance I might like it.



KratosLives said:
KLXVER said:

So if you watch a game on Youtube and you think "This game looks boring and I hate the story" all the way through. That can all change completely after playing the game for yourself? Just seems like an excuse because you yourself love the game so much. Not saying that is the case, it just kinda comes off that way.

Now TLOU2 is my GOTY, but I still think its interesting to hear from people who didnt like it. Doesnt make the game any less enjoyable to me.

Sometimes I play games and don't like the story.  Gameplay is still the saving grace, and trumps story. 

Death stranding for example, to me looked boring from what I saw online, but experiencing was totally different. The feel of the controls was tight and realistic, it was more personal when playing on my own no distractions, was immersed in the world, I had to think for my self and things were at stake. It's a totally different experience when you are given the pwer of control.  Games like minecraft and animal crossing don't appeal to me at all, and I think how on earth can someone play that, but I bet if I let my mind go play it for a few hrs there is a 50% chance I might like it.

That's an iffy excuse to limit the entire game down to only it's controls, especially when you have to consider the fact that TLOU II is centred around a core story, that's been going since the first game.

Even for a game like Minecraft, you see people putting build videos for all to see, so they can visually learn from the crafter on how to build a specific object, all without having to stare down at a peripheral or having to have their hands on said peripherals at the time of watching the tutorial, but the "feel" ultimately isn't going to matter, when with a game like Minecraft, the visual build is what's going to matter, and you see it not only by watching the youtuber showing off the tutorial, but the end result of you yourself building that object. 

People can absolutely like DS for it's gameplay, but Kojima isn't the kind of dev who just makes a game and chucks out the story. The story is all around you in that game, from dialogues with NPC's, to flashbacks, to cutscene sequences etc. The game play is what moves you from sequence to sequence, but ultimately, with a game like DS, the story is what's going to matter and it's main focus, the diddling around on a bike across the mountains is the added bonus to letting you explore it's world, like you being able to walk around and shoot NPC's in TLOU II.



KratosLives said:
KLXVER said:

So if you watch a game on Youtube and you think "This game looks boring and I hate the story" all the way through. That can all change completely after playing the game for yourself? Just seems like an excuse because you yourself love the game so much. Not saying that is the case, it just kinda comes off that way.

Now TLOU2 is my GOTY, but I still think its interesting to hear from people who didnt like it. Doesnt make the game any less enjoyable to me.

Sometimes I play games and don't like the story.  Gameplay is still the saving grace, and trumps story. 

Death stranding for example, to me looked boring from what I saw online, but experiencing was totally different. The feel of the controls was tight and realistic, it was more personal when playing on my own no distractions, was immersed in the world, I had to think for my self and things were at stake. It's a totally different experience when you are given the pwer of control.  Games like minecraft and animal crossing don't appeal to me at all, and I think how on earth can someone play that, but I bet if I let my mind go play it for a few hrs there is a 50% chance I might like it.

Thats fair enough. I only saw a few trailers of Death Stranding and I thought the gameplay looked kinda fun. The story looked crazy and interesting and the graphics were great. I played through the game and I found the gameplay kinda fun. I found the story to be crazy and interesting and the graphics were great. I also have over 30 years of experience with playing video games, so I can usually get a great overall picture of a game from trailers and videos. Let alone full playthroughs.

Doesnt mean a game cant surprise me. Animal Crossing: New Horizons sure as hell did. Thats a game were I didnt have much to compare it to though. Its pretty much the first Life Sim Ive ever played. TLOU2 is a sequel and Im sure I would think the game looked amazing if I watched a playthrough on Youtube instead of playing it myself. 

Im not saying watching it is the same as playing it as some here seems to think. Of course it isnt. Im just saying I can form a pretty accurate opinion alot of the time by watching a game being played.