Oh trust me, it get's better:

Someone discovered that Police car chase AI is still tucked away within the game, it's just not finished is all. So god knows how many other features and content are locked away within the game itself.

Also for them claiming it can't really be done much in third person due to how the game world was crafted:

It's not the devs fault this is what way it is, it's the sodding scummy management and shareholders that pushed for this mess. This game alone has given me an even bigger hatred for shareholders, because I waited 8 sodding years for this, and some slimy punters roll on in, treating CDPR like some gambling casino, expecting a big payout at my/devs expense. 

Managers need to be fired asap.

Their marketing and demo show off's basically promised what they claimed they were going to do with the game, and then we get this mess. It honestly was built on lies, via Management and PR. The devs did as they were told.

If you wanna talk about quality:

(2013 game)

(2020 game)

The direct lies are mostly hiding the quality on base consoles while shutting down any rumors of it having trouble on the base consoles. Both by suppressing any leaked footage / proving approved footage (and stating they're doing it to avoid spoilers) and promising that the day one patch will turn it into a completely different (acceptable) game.

The indirect lies are the same as with most games, promising more through generated hype and launching with downgrades and cut / incomplete features. However in this case some things are really basic like the AI. They apparently promised a lot about the dynamic immersive behavior of the inhabitants of Night city.


I wasn't paying attention to that either, but I could see why people would complain about cop and NPC behavior as rudimentary as it is in Cyberpunk (for now) for an open world game. That was dwarfed by the performance issues though, but got more traction when the game got further placed under a magnifying glass. It is indeed also what always happens with hyped up games.

When I played No Man's Sky at launch I found a solid entertaining game. I had not followed any of the hype, just expected a game in space with procedural planets. The flight mechanics were the usual nonsense and I was a bit disappointed that the planetary systems paled in scale to Elite Dangerous, but the game loop was satisfying and the variation in planets kept me going for a while. The backlash was quite surprising to me at the start, yet then I read some of the previews and yep, it was not the game people expected it to be. Did it deserve all the hate for delivering a functional game? (can't remember if it was broken on launch on PC) Not for me.

Another example is DriveClub. Again I had not followed the hype and found a solid single player arcade racing game with great track design and pretty visuals. The servers didn't work at launch, was pretty common back then that the servers couldn't handle launch week. But true, pretty shitty if you're expecting multiplayer. And although I didn't care for it much, clubs were indeed not working on release, which is in the name! Then people started complaining about the small car roster, short campaign and everything that it was not. It felt like it got docked for not being open world. Personally it was great, finally a racer focusing on track design instead of joining the open world band wagon.

Both turned out great later, sadly Evolution studios did not. Yet those are clear examples for the industry to manage expectations to avoid backlash. Plus CDPR already had experience with backlash when TW3 launched. It didn't look like the trailer and had questionable performance at launch. They turned it around and promised to do better, both to the developers and player base. Everyone fed up with broken games at launch was looking to CDPR as the savior of gaming showing the big studios how it should be done. (Forgetting about TW3 launch, just focusing on the support after launch)

Anyway maybe the removal will help. A clear signal to the industry that it has gone too far. When KZ: SF got sued for what is now the accepted standard (checkboarding, TAA, DLSS) it rightly was ridiculed as an over reaction. Not true 1080p in multiplayer (reconstructed from two 960x1080 frames, basically 1080p30, precursor to checkerboarding) was the single complaint, false advertising. Where are we now, unfinished game, lots of crashes, worst performance on base consoles seen yet, withholding review copies and suppressing any non sanctioned footage. No DRM and no MT aren't going to save all that. And yep, we've seen all the components before, yet never combined like this, from the most trusted developer no less, promising far more than was delivered.

As for not being able to buy the digital version currently, it will be back when the game is ready. I don't see the problem with that. In the end it's nothing more than another desperately needed delay. It will come back in a much better state, no need to play the current version.

Yes. I keep seeing advertisements to it on youtube, yesterday saw a bus in london totally in yellow advertising cyberpunk.

It will keep on selling because at the end of the day it runs fine in next gen systems, PC, Xone X and PsPro. At that is already a lot of people.

I still see commercials for it, too. Game stores still have it plastered everywhere. It's going to be a massive success for them.

And from what I've seen of the base console versions, it's completely playable. I think 99% of the outrage here is just Internet outrage culture at its finest. Look at that list someone posted last page of all the stuff "cut" from the game. Fucking yikes.

I do agree about the way the reviews were handled, but that's just one more reason no one should give a flying fuck about metascores or reviews in general. Every big game like this has all these rules and NDA's and shit, there's really no point in even reading the reviews.

I'm only 13 hours in the game, work and holidays have been cutting into my playing time, but the only bad thing I have had happen is still the hard frame drops to zero that happened three or four times in my first few hours and have not happened since. Other than that I have zero complaints about bugs. It's no worse than many other games available to play, Sony just took it off so that they wouldn't have to give out as many refunds.

I think what CDPR needs to do here is put their heads down, fix the game on all platforms, then give away the first planned paid DLC for free, or reduce the price by 50% or something, as a show of goodwill. Apologies are bullshit in situations like this. They very clearly did this on purpose.
They're only sorry that it blew up in such a big way they certainly knew they would catch some flak, but I'm sure they didn't think it would go this crazy. At this point, they have to accept the fact that everybody knows that they tried to pull one over on the gaming public, and they need to actually do something to demonstrate that they're sorry, rather than just say it.

An alternative would be something like reducing the price of the game to $40, and sending everyone that paid the original retail price a $20 credit to the platform store of their choice. One way or another, they have to give some monetary relief to everyone that they screwed. And, let's be clear, they screwed people with current generation platforms and PC gamers as well. The game is loaded with bugs on all systems. This fact has just been overshadowed by the incredibly poor performance on last gen hardware.

I think what CDPR needs to do here is put their heads down, fix the game on all platforms, then give away the first planned paid DLC for free, or reduce the price by 50% or something, as a show of goodwill. Apologies are bullshit in situations like this. They very clearly did this on purpose.
They're only sorry that it blew up in such a big way they certainly knew they would catch some flak, but I'm sure they didn't think it would go this crazy. At this point, they have to accept the fact that everybody knows that they tried to pull one over on the gaming public, and they need to actually do something to demonstrate that they're sorry, rather than just say it.

An alternative would be something like reducing the price of the game to $40, and sending everyone that paid the original retail price a $20 credit to the platform store of their choice. One way or another, they have to give some monetary relief to everyone that they screwed. And, let's be clear, they screwed people with current generation platforms and PC gamers as well. The game is loaded with bugs on all systems. This fact has just been overshadowed by the incredibly poor performance on last gen hardware.

I think what CDPR needs to do here is put their heads down, fix the game on all platforms, then give away the first planned paid DLC for free, or reduce the price by 50% or something, as a show of goodwill. Apologies are bullshit in situations like this. They very clearly did this on purpose.
They're only sorry that it blew up in such a big way they certainly knew they would catch some flak, but I'm sure they didn't think it would go this crazy. At this point, they have to accept the fact that everybody knows that they tried to pull one over on the gaming public, and they need to actually do something to demonstrate that they're sorry, rather than just say it.

An alternative would be something like reducing the price of the game to $40, and sending everyone that paid the original retail price a $20 credit to the platform store of their choice. One way or another, they have to give some monetary relief to everyone that they screwed. And, let's be clear, they screwed people with current generation platforms and PC gamers as well. The game is loaded with bugs on all systems. This fact has just been overshadowed by the incredibly poor performance on last gen hardware.

Ccccccccombo breaker

You see, stuff like this is what keeps the 'conversation' going. I see it all over the place, then the next post comes with lists of stuff that is missing, unfinished, unpolished, next to all the bug reels and comparisons with other games. Only to generate more counter outrage posts.

Just accept it is not acceptable on base consoles, DF advises to avoid it. It's not just frame rate drops and crashes, streaming issues as well, all affecting the game play. Then there is the notion that it gets worse the further you get in the game, yet you call it completely playable based on 13 hours of playing on I assume not a base console.

Yes there is outrage culture. It started with the death threats against delays, then against anyone trying to cast doubt on whether the game would be finished or run well on base consoles, then rage against reviewers that dared score it lower than perfect, even sending epilepsy trigger videos to the reviewer that experienced an epileptic attack from the game.

Then the game launched and the other 'side' engaged. Neither 'side' will let it go, just egging each other one. Runs fine for me, but it's unfinished, you can't enjoy it. The story is great, but they promised an open world sandbox. (did they, I don't know) All on top of the undeniable shameful launch code on base consoles, after hiding any evidence of that version for as long as possible.

At this point it feels like CDPR fans are only making the situation worse. Defending the launch is futile at this point. Sure, there is a good game underneath, give it a chance to come out, literally.