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curl-6 on 23 November 2020

Yeah there's been no indication so far that PS5 is going to do anything to buck Switch's brutal dominance in Japan.
PS4 had mainline MH and DQ and it still got beaten with ease. Multiplat is just the way almost everything is trending these days.



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noshten on 24 November 2020

TOP 10 Switch Famitsu 2020 Q4:

  1. Pikmin 3 Deluxe - 270.347 
  2. Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 219.936
  3. Ring Fit Adventure - 205.538
  4. Super Mario 3D All-Stars - 105.364
  5. Mario Kart Live -  90.468
  6. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 81.974* (+1)
  7. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 77.000 (-1)
  8. Shin Megami Tensei III - 59.549
  9. Minecraft - 47.120
  10. Smash Ultimate - 40.398

TOTAL: 1.197.694

  • Next week is exciting as Momotaro and Age of Calamity join the fray
  • Momotaro will be in #1 position if it manages >300K launch which is looking likely
  • Ring Fit Adventure and Animal Crossing will also get a big boost from additional stock and Ring Fit Bundles
  • SMT III will be exiting the chart and so will Smash Ultimate


Wyrdness on 24 November 2020
Marth said:

Worldwide shipment for Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity: 3 Million

https://www.famitsu.com/news/202011/24210021.html

Record for the Warrior series

Record as in highest selling title in the series now?



Wyrdness on 24 November 2020
Marth said:
Wyrdness said:

Record as in highest selling title in the series now?

Yes. Previous best-seller was Dynasty Warriors 4 at 2.25M LTD.

We can also factor in that last week is like 3 days for AOC being launch week.



Bofferbrauer2 on 24 November 2020
Marth said:

Worldwide shipment for Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity: 3 Million

https://www.famitsu.com/news/202011/24210021.html

Record for the Warrior series

And yet somehow I feel this will be sold out in a moment.

I'm more expecting something like 5M+ LTD when all is said and done



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src on 24 November 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:
src said:

TWEWY Neo is also announced for PS4. Another Nintendo exclusive third party game now making its way over to Playstation. Nintendo has now lost:

- MH

- DQ

- DQ (spinoff)

- KH (spinoff)

- RER

- AA

- YW

- TWEWY

- Harvest Moon

Only notable third party exclusives are OT, BD, SMT and MHR+S. Makes sense why Nintendo are paying publishers to have their AA games exclusive to SW.

So? Should we do a list of games that were slated to be PS4 exclusive and then came over to the Switch? Would be at least as long as yours...

And about the bolded part: Sony is the one with the constant moneyhatting to have games on their platform, not Nintendo. That has been proven time and again.

The vice versa list would not be nearly as prominent.

Nintendo lost, MH,DQ, the best selling Japanese third party games of all time.

animegaming said:
src said:

TWEWY Neo is also announced for PS4. Another Nintendo exclusive third party game now making its way over to Playstation. Nintendo has now lost:

- MH

- DQ

- DQ (spinoff)

- KH (spinoff)

- RER

- AA

- YW

- TWEWY

- Harvest Moon

Only notable third party exclusives are OT, BD, SMT and MHR+S. Makes sense why Nintendo are paying publishers to have their AA games exclusive to SW.

Lets be honest here, the Switch version is gonna outsell the Playstation version by a good margin considering the history of the franchise and how JRPG's been performing on Switch especially in the last year or two. 

Expected as TWEWY was a prior Nintendo exclusive, however if this is just the start then the franchise can become just as popular on PS. There is a far bigger SE JRPG audience on Playstation (FF,KH,Nier) than on Nintendo.

theDX said:

Games going PS4/Switch multiplat has benefit the Switch so much more than the other way around. I doubt Nintendo loses sleep over "losing" exclusives when they still get the game anyway.

Definitely are considering Nintendo actively pays money to publishers to make their games exclusive. They paid Capcom 15 million just to delay the annoucement of MH Rise PC lmao

Bear in mind, Sony also sees importance of third party exclusives, though they go after far bigger properties.

animegaming said:
Farsala said:

For sure, PS4 is dead in the water now. 3rd parties have much more chance for spotlight by releasing on PS5/ Switch.

And when it comes to Japan though, that is assuming that PS5 doesn't continue the decline Playstation has been facing in Japan. Though it should get sequels to some of the big heavy hitters on the PS4 sooner, since it looks like FFXVI could release as early as late 2021 and if those documents from the Capcom aren't outdated, the follow up to Monster Hunter World is 2023. Both of those have a good chance of not hitting Switch, but for another big sequel to a PS4 game, DQXII. I think is that gonna be multiplat with Switch and PS5 with the former being the lead platform for the game and Nintendo definitely more likely to help market then Sony. 

PS3 -> PS4 decline is like 5% and would be smaller if it was not for the stock problems and PS5's BC.

Capcom also has:

  1. Dragons Dogma
  2. Pragmata
  3. SF6
  4. RE8
  5. RE4 Remake
  6. RE Multiplayer title

SE, Capcom,TK and NB will be supporting PS5 a lot more than PS4, as they had their biggest successes of all time thanks to the PS4.



Wyrdness on 24 November 2020
src said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

So? Should we do a list of games that were slated to be PS4 exclusive and then came over to the Switch? Would be at least as long as yours...

And about the bolded part: Sony is the one with the constant moneyhatting to have games on their platform, not Nintendo. That has been proven time and again.

The vice versa list would not be nearly as prominent.

Nintendo lost, MH,DQ, the best selling Japanese third party games of all time.

animegaming said:

Lets be honest here, the Switch version is gonna outsell the Playstation version by a good margin considering the history of the franchise and how JRPG's been performing on Switch especially in the last year or two. 

Expected as TWEWY was a prior Nintendo exclusive, however if this is just the start then the franchise can become just as popular on PS. There is a far bigger SE JRPG audience on Playstation (FF,KH,Nier) than on Nintendo.

theDX said:

Games going PS4/Switch multiplat has benefit the Switch so much more than the other way around. I doubt Nintendo loses sleep over "losing" exclusives when they still get the game anyway.

Definitely are considering Nintendo actively pays money to publishers to make their games exclusive. They paid Capcom 15 million just to delay the annoucement of MH Rise PC lmao

Bear in mind, Sony also sees importance of third party exclusives, though they go after far bigger properties.

animegaming said:

And when it comes to Japan though, that is assuming that PS5 doesn't continue the decline Playstation has been facing in Japan. Though it should get sequels to some of the big heavy hitters on the PS4 sooner, since it looks like FFXVI could release as early as late 2021 and if those documents from the Capcom aren't outdated, the follow up to Monster Hunter World is 2023. Both of those have a good chance of not hitting Switch, but for another big sequel to a PS4 game, DQXII. I think is that gonna be multiplat with Switch and PS5 with the former being the lead platform for the game and Nintendo definitely more likely to help market then Sony. 

PS3 -> PS4 decline is like 5% and would be smaller if it was not for the stock problems and PS5's BC.

Capcom also has:

  1. Dragons Dogma
  2. Pragmata
  3. SF6
  4. RE8
  5. RE4 Remake
  6. RE Multiplayer title

SE, Capcom,TK and NB will be supporting PS5 a lot more than PS4, as they had their biggest successes of all time thanks to the PS4.

How did Nintendo lose MH when it originated on PS platforms and was on PS2, PS3 and PSP as well as PC? DQ was also on PS platforms from the PS1 era through to the PS2? Not only do you have no actual point here you don't really have a clue on what you're on about either. TWEWY was on mobile and I guarantee you the NS version of the second game will outsell the PS4 game.



TruckOSaurus on 24 November 2020
RolStoppable said:
src said:

Definitely are considering Nintendo actively pays money to publishers to make their games exclusive. They paid Capcom 15 million just to delay the annoucement of MH Rise PC lmao

Bear in mind, Sony also sees importance of third party exclusives, though they go after far bigger properties.

Do you have any credible source that hints at or confirms that Nintendo is paying for exclusivity of specific games?

Would you consider his dream journal a credible source?



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TomaTito on 24 November 2020
TruckOSaurus said:
RolStoppable said:

Do you have any credible source that hints at or confirms that Nintendo is paying for exclusivity of specific games?

Would you consider his dream journal a credible source?

He is a source after all, but not the source.



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noshten on 24 November 2020

So Momotaro being originally on the PS1 is another franchise Sony lost over the years :D