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Is PS5 the only gen 9 system?

yes 10 38.46%
 
YES, but in CAPS. 16 61.54%
 
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Polyphony on 09 November 2020

PS5 is 5th gen.XSX is 4th gen.NS is 8th gen. Only the succsessor of the Switch will be a 9th gen console.



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Link_Nines.XBC on 09 November 2020

Oh, so now what people called "gimmicks" are suddenly the only next-gen features, interesting



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dane007 on 09 November 2020

That how it was when ps4 came out. There were alot of games that used it and then over the years it faded out. Same with switch HD rumble. At launch there's a few games that support it and now there's none. It will end up being a gimmick. 

hinch said:

EnricoPallazzo said:
Nah, I think it is the same thing as XBX just slightly slower on teraflops and quicker on loading ram.The controller that everyone is talking about will probably end up being just a gimmick for a lot of people. PS4 controller seemed to be so cool with a speaker, touch controls, but in the end nobody uses it and a lot of people even dont like rumble and turn if off, like competitive games for example.It will be heavily used and make a difference only on sony studios games.

Completely new controller, re-hauled UI, native 3D sound support for most launch games. 1st party games at launch. The SSD is also significantly faster (2x) raw throughput and can load games instantaneously. XsX/S is no slouch and has advantages of its own, like quick resume, slight edge in horsepower but its more iterative step for hardware. There's also no new 1st party to showcase its potential yet. Of course early days, in a few years time Xbox will have a load of games.

Most third parties from PS5 previews seem smitten over DualSense and have implemented (or plan to) it into their games. And the same with people who've tried it. List of games with support already - https://www.androidcentral.com/list-ps5-games-dualsense-haptic-feedback-adaptive-triggers



DonFerrari on 09 November 2020
sales2099 said:
Dallinor said:
sales2099 said:

The main advantage PS5 has is launch exclusives like Spiderman and Demon Souls being the highlights. Also a new controller design which has overwhelmingly positive impressions.

That said, numerous hardware comparisons favor Series X. I won’t list them all but it’s unanimous Xbox has better engineered hardware and software features/capabilities. But ultimately to the end user, the new controller and better launch lineup are more noticeable.

It's been pointed out to you already, but the controller is part of the hardware.

So is it numerous or unanimous? Pick.

What's your sources? You've been pushing that narrative for a while.

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I think the controller is the controller. I meant “console” when I said hardware. Otherwise, Twitter and google is your friend. I’m not gonna to list them all here and now, but this is the part where you say PS5 excels in day 1 1st party and a new controller. Where being lesser in hardware and software features is secondary to the end purpose of why we play consoles. 

Considering the reviewers that is on the article in the OP you can't say they are unanimous. They are basically saying the spec in paper doesn't translate to real world performance difference that are really observable while the features of PS5 put it as the only next-gen. You can certainly disagree from them, but still would show that the critics aren't unanimous (so your claim would be wrong)



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smroadkill15 on 09 November 2020

Hard "Nope" on this one.



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Dallinor on 09 November 2020
sales2099 said:
Dallinor said:

It's been pointed out to you already, but the controller is part of the hardware.

So is it numerous or unanimous? Pick.

What's your sources? You've been pushing that narrative for a while.

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I think the controller is the controller. I meant “console” when I said hardware. Otherwise, Twitter and google is your friend. I’m not gonna to list them all here and now, but this is the part where you say PS5 excels in day 1 1st party and a new controller. Where being lesser in hardware and software features is secondary to the end purpose of why we play consoles. 

The onus is on you to provide some proof- You came in and made a sweeping statement, so back it up.

Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm pointing out the obviously flawed logic in your posting.



 

sales2099 on 09 November 2020
Dallinor said:
sales2099 said:
Dallinor said:

It's been pointed out to you already, but the controller is part of the hardware.

So is it numerous or unanimous? Pick.

What's your sources? You've been pushing that narrative for a while.

_________

I think the controller is the controller. I meant “console” when I said hardware. Otherwise, Twitter and google is your friend. I’m not gonna to list them all here and now, but this is the part where you say PS5 excels in day 1 1st party and a new controller. Where being lesser in hardware and software features is secondary to the end purpose of why we play consoles. 

The onus is on you to provide some proof- You came in and made a sweeping statement, so back it up.

Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm pointing out the obviously flawed logic in your posting.

Your supposed to know, and your job is to say the games are more important. That said, since you asked:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/5/21551165/sony-ps5-playstation-5-no-m2-ssd-expansion-launch

https://twitter.com/colteastwood/status/1325858163355082753?s=21

https://twitter.com/gameovergreggy/status/1324797781316304898?s=21

https://twitter.com/dukpredator/status/1324775085018959872?s=21

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1324698049784918016?s=21

https://twitter.com/dukpredator/status/1321505559506505728?s=21

https://twitter.com/xboxwins1/status/1323019917315215365?s=21

- Plus the whole thing where Series X is overall better specs in 50% less space and doesn’t require tools to lay on side and expand memory. 

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Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

PotentHerbs on 09 November 2020

From the Dualsense controller (haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, 3D audio), to the rehauled UI including the activities tab (potentially a major QoL improvement, if you can access game modes directly from the UI, rather than the main menu), the SSD/IO (virtually no load times/faster installs), to games like Demon's Souls, Astro's Playroom and Ratchet & Clank demonstrating next gen capability, the PS5 feels a lot more next generation than the Series X at the moment. Most of the features that the PS5 is missing are minor and can be patched in anyways.

BTW, I seen a couple of users compare the haptic feedback to the Switch's rumble, but we have a few reviewers claiming the haptic feedback is superior. Also, adaptive triggers are more natural to implement into a game, than say the touch pad on the PS4, or even something like gyro aiming. It remains to be seen if the Dualsense is a gimmick but as it stands right now, a ton of third party games are utilizing its features, including CoD, Fortnite and 2K.



PotentHerbs on 09 November 2020

Did the Switch controllers get as much praise, or games that utilized the controller features, like the Dualsense?



Pemalite on 09 November 2020

People will believe anything it seems.I can assure you, the Playstation 5 is not the only 9th gen console.



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