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Shiken said:
Hynad said:

If I had to guess, I’d say it’s the lack of genuine reasonable and backed by actual thought out criticism. Coupled with the nature of the criticism having, on most counts, roots in sexism, bigotry, and backward social ideals and beliefs.

Well I mean, I just lost interest halfway through.  I found the gameplay solid, but the story lacking and boring.  I just didn't care enough to keep playing once I had my fun.  It probably didn't help that I stopped playing in the middle of one of those flashbacks that I didn't feel like sitting through, so my motivation to fire it back up has been that much lower.

Not everyone who doesn't praise this game is a, "sexist, bigot, and backward in social ideals/beliefs."  Some of us just found the game to be a fun shooter with a lackluster plot.

You sound like someone who has a genuine and reasonable critique of the game (and also similar to my own). I can't speak for Hynad, but I'm guessing he's referring to people who do things like call the game 'The Woke of Us' because it seems beyond them to even try to accept LGBT characters. I've also seen criticisms of the game regarding the trans character from trans-gender activists which come across as equally lacking merit.

Personally I got to the Seraphites parts of the game and then put it down once Ghost of Tsushima came out. I keep meaning to finish but never get around to it.



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How is this still a discussion? Even I know the game is gonna pick up once the remaster hits with the delayed MP.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

I just bought this on the black friday psn sale sadly I won't get to start it until the Next week



Baddman said:

I just bought this on the black friday psn sale sadly I won't get to start it until the Next week

Since you already waited so long, perhaps would be better to wait for the PS5 upgrade?



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

It is really sad to see how some shit garbage leaks without context can destroy sales of game. Someone must be really proud. Hard to not loosing steam (whatever it means) when after almost 6 months most of wanna be "youtubers" are still shitting on the game like - shit awards (TGA cause TLOU got most nominations) and sellout, etc. People like them are just cringe and mostly re... Same goes with most of the TLOU1 fans whatever happens they will never accept someone vision, but hey look i called him a cuckmann (i personally do not like him but ye, still very cringe and stupid to see people calling someone who will never meet in person) ye i am the real Chad here oh yea!

Hope game does well at the end and join 20mln with other PS games.



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What is the sales data for the game? I don't see it in the OP.



DonFerrari said:
Darc Requiem said:

Sorry, I don't visit this forum much anymore. The warrior I mentioned is a hypothetical. If I write a book and say a character, let's call him Bob, is a peerless warrior. I have Bob participate in a half dozen, one on one, duels throughout the course of the book. Bob only wins one of them. The audience, despite my intentions, is not going to share my view of the character. I, as a writer, did poor job conveying Bob's skill to the audience.

I could have written Bob in a way that, even with him losing five out of the six confrontations, he still comes across as peerless warrior. I could change the combat scenario from duels to Bob facing down multiple highly skilled opponents. This would, in defeat, show his skill. The audience would see that it took unbalanced odds to defeat him. I could add some extenuating circumstance. I could have Bob be left handed and break his left arm early on in the story. He fist battle would be a crushing defeat due to having to use his off hand. Over the course of the book, he could still lose five fights, but in each battle would get closer and closer to victory. Leading to a final confrontation with the antagonist where he defeats him in single combat with his off hand.

Often in a story it isn't what happens but how it happens. If you want things to happen in a certain way, you need to have events play out in a plausible manner. You can't have nonsensical events play out just because. You can't have a character, without reasonable explanation, act in a way contrary to how they've been presented to the reader/viewer/player thus far.

Sure, your example makes sense, but you do know it is a very big exaggeration that doesn't fit. It isn't as if TLOU2 have show a scenario that makes 0 sense.

The example was basic to on purpose. I could have crafted the character. Written out him out in detail, not conveyed to you what I thought the character was supposed to be, and then pointed how your perception of him is not what I intended. That would have been long, time consuming, and convoluted way to make the same point.

As for your thoughts on TLOU2's writings. Not everyone see's it the same way as you do. I'm not attached to the franchise and from a writer's, albeit an amateur one, perspective I found it to be poor. I saw what they were going for, I just thought it was executed badly. Like the last season of Game of Thrones, it wasn't the events that occurred it was how they occurred.



method114 said:

What is the sales data for the game? I don't see it in the OP.

Only launch number was released by Sony which is 4 million units.

According to gamstat total number of players for TLOU2 = 7.2 million players. 

GOT has like 5.8 million players and sold 5 million units. So, TLOU2 should be around 6.3 million units by now. 



LGBTDBZBBQ said:
method114 said:

What is the sales data for the game? I don't see it in the OP.

Only launch number was released by Sony which is 4 million units.

According to gamstat total number of players for TLOU2 = 7.2 million players. 

GOT has like 5.8 million players and sold 5 million units. So, TLOU2 should be around 6.3 million units by now. 

Using Game Stats is not a good source since that site is inaccurate AF



I will say it again, a masterpiece, where every scene and moment of the game has a purpsoe and was well thought out,right to the end. Looking forward to the ps5 enhanced upgrades .