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Shiken said:
Hynad said:

Don’t comment on the plot part after admitting you didn’t even go through it. You don’t know what you’re commenting about.

I am commenting on that after 15 hours, the plot was not interesting enough to keep going and therefore is lackluster.  If the plot was so great, I would have been hooked long before completing half of the game.

The problem here is that when you don't hear an opinion that lines up with your own, you claim "you don't know what your talking about" or cover your ears because you can't take the fact that your opinion is not law.  It is an ongoing theme with you.

But hey, good talk.  Good to see that, in a different way, your rebuttal was about as closed minded as actual bigots and people with backwards beliefs.

Hey little genius, if you only read two chapters of a 15 chapters book, how are you in any position to criticize the whole book’s worth of plot?

But hey, good talk. As to what you are, I’ll refrain from playing that game of yours. But I’ll invite you to keep it to that discord circlejerk of yours.

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Hynad said:
Shiken said:

I am commenting on that after 15 hours, the plot was not interesting enough to keep going and therefore is lackluster.  If the plot was so great, I would have been hooked long before completing half of the game.

The problem here is that when you don't hear an opinion that lines up with your own, you claim "you don't know what your talking about" or cover your ears because you can't take the fact that your opinion is not law.  It is an ongoing theme with you.

But hey, good talk.  Good to see that, in a different way, your rebuttal was about as closed minded as actual bigots and people with backwards beliefs.

Hey little genius, if you only read two chapters of a 15 chapters book, how are you in any position to criticize the whole book’s worth of plot?

But hey, good talk. As to what you are, I’ll refrain from playing that game of yours. But I’ll invite you to keep it to that discord circlejerk of yours.

A little basic math would tell you that half of a 15 chapter book is actually 7.5 chapters, which is plenty of time to see that I am bored with the direction story and decide to move on.  It is completely relevant as it goes against your notion that anyone who dislikes the story is a bigot or has backwards ideals.  Many just found it uninteresting for one reason or another.

And the reason you got kicked out of that "discord circlejerk" was due to the hostile and closed minded nature you continually show to anyone who does not agree with you.  I mean really, just look at the only post I made in this thread.  All I did was say the gameplay was good, but I got bored with the plot halfway through the game.  Yet here we are with you attacking me because it goes against the notion of your opinion being law.

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Shiken said:
Hynad said:

Hey little genius, if you only read two chapters of a 15 chapters book, how are you in any position to criticize the whole book’s worth of plot?

But hey, good talk. As to what you are, I’ll refrain from playing that game of yours. But I’ll invite you to keep it to that discord circlejerk of yours.

A little basic math would tell you that half of a 15 chapter book is actually 7.5 chapters, which is plenty of time to see that I am bored with the direction story and decide to move on.  It is completely relevant as it goes against your notion that anyone who dislikes the story is a bigot or has backwards ideals.  Many just found it uninteresting for one reason or another.

And the reason you got kicked out of that "discord circlejerk" was due to the hostile and closed minded nature you continually show to anyone who does not agree with you.  I mean really, just look at the only post I made in this thread.  All I did was say the gameplay was good, but I got bored with the plot halfway through the game.  Yet here we are with you attacking me because it goes against the notion of your opinion being law.

I wasn’t kicked out, I left. But nice try. Isn’t the first time you can’t get your facts straight.   

As for the rest, I am not passing what I say as law. You have to be willfully blind to not see how much hate this game and its story got for various ignorant reasons. It was picked apart like few games ever are, and aspects were taken out of context to drive a narrative. Now you can take what I said personally and wear the hat or not. Either way, if you have more to say about me, I invite you to keep it to your circle jerk, or take it to PMs. 



Hynad said:
Shiken said:

A little basic math would tell you that half of a 15 chapter book is actually 7.5 chapters, which is plenty of time to see that I am bored with the direction story and decide to move on.  It is completely relevant as it goes against your notion that anyone who dislikes the story is a bigot or has backwards ideals.  Many just found it uninteresting for one reason or another.

And the reason you got kicked out of that "discord circlejerk" was due to the hostile and closed minded nature you continually show to anyone who does not agree with you.  I mean really, just look at the only post I made in this thread.  All I did was say the gameplay was good, but I got bored with the plot halfway through the game.  Yet here we are with you attacking me because it goes against the notion of your opinion being law.

I wasn’t kicked out, I left. But nice try. Isn’t the first time you can’t get your facts straight.   

As for the rest, I am not passing what I say as law. You have to be willfully blind to not see how much hate this game and its story got for various ignorant reasons. It was picked apart like few games ever are, and aspects were taken out of context to drive a narrative. Now you can take what I said personally and wear the hat or not. Either way, if you have more to say about me, I invite you to keep it to your circle jerk, or take it to PMs. 

If you left on your own, then good for you.  If you cannot get along with who is there, it is best to leave.  Can't look down on that I suppose.

Having said that, I am full aware that hate was thrown for those reasons by a very vocal group of people.  I never claimed it wasn't.  All I said was that I found the story boring, and lost interest 15 hours into the game.  If that somehow translates to me being "willfully ignorant" because I don't agree with your blanket statement or think the plot is a masterpiece, then there is nothing more to say.  You clearly only see what you want to see, which ironically is the very definition of willful ignorance itself.

Have a nice night.



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Shiken said:
Hynad said:

I wasn’t kicked out, I left. But nice try. Isn’t the first time you can’t get your facts straight.   

As for the rest, I am not passing what I say as law. You have to be willfully blind to not see how much hate this game and its story got for various ignorant reasons. It was picked apart like few games ever are, and aspects were taken out of context to drive a narrative. Now you can take what I said personally and wear the hat or not. Either way, if you have more to say about me, I invite you to keep it to your circle jerk, or take it to PMs. 

If you left on your own, then good for you.  If you cannot get along with who is there, it is best to leave.  Can't look down on that I suppose.

Having said that, I am full aware that hate was thrown for those reasons by a very vocal group of people.  I never claimed it wasn't.  All I said was that I found the story boring, and lost interest 15 hours into the game.  If that somehow translates to me being "willfully ignorant" because I don't agree with your blanket statement or think the plot is a masterpiece, then there is nothing more to say.  You clearly only see what you want to see, which ironically is the very definition of willful ignorance itself.

Have a nice night.

So the hat fits. Thanks for clearing that out. That part about me seeing only what I want while you do exactly that in your replies to me is particularly... interesting.

Keep it up. Have a good one.

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Hynad said:
Shiken said:

I am commenting on that after 15 hours, the plot was not interesting enough to keep going and therefore is lackluster.  If the plot was so great, I would have been hooked long before completing half of the game.

The problem here is that when you don't hear an opinion that lines up with your own, you claim "you don't know what your talking about" or cover your ears because you can't take the fact that your opinion is not law.  It is an ongoing theme with you.

But hey, good talk.  Good to see that, in a different way, your rebuttal was about as closed minded as actual bigots and people with backwards beliefs.

Hey little genius, if you only read two chapters of a 15 chapters book, how are you in any position to criticize the whole book’s worth of plot?

But hey, good talk. As to what you are, I’ll refrain from playing that game of yours. But I’ll invite you to keep it to that discord circlejerk of yours.

User was banned for this Post-JWeincom

User was banned because of this? People should not be banned for voicing their opinions. 

And the other dude clearly baited him too.



Pibituh said:
Hynad said:

Hey little genius, if you only read two chapters of a 15 chapters book, how are you in any position to criticize the whole book’s worth of plot?

But hey, good talk. As to what you are, I’ll refrain from playing that game of yours. But I’ll invite you to keep it to that discord circlejerk of yours.

User was banned for this Post-JWeincom

User was banned because of this? People should not be banned for voicing their opinions. 

And the other dude clearly baited him too.

Are you reading these posts backwards or something? He wasn't banned for voicing his opinions. He was banned for blatantly insulting and labeling other people who try to voice their opinions on this game, trying to drown out any sort of nuanced conversation about this title.

This game has been such a toxic conversation topic for that very reason, which is why there's never any truly civil discussion, and people keep making these threads wondering why it's so hated, or why it's seemingly died out. Most sensible people won't waste their time with it.



Maybe I am reading it backwards, but he was banned for that post, I don't see any label on there.

Only some circlejerk stuff, and the other guy just told indirectly he was a bigot lol

People need to stop getting offended by people opinions.



Thread went as expected, humanity is not ready to talk about TLOU2 AND Star Wars.



BraLoD said:
A massive hate campaign was what happened, and people bought on it.
What happened with it on Metacritic alone was unprecedent.
It's by far the best game this year, which is really sad for those people missing on it.
Probably still made ND good money already and they may make a TLoU2R like they did back with the original and the PS5 early day hype might help it a lot since there will be no hate campaign anymore, who knows.

Well, i had mixed feeling about the game. While i think the negative attention was overblown, and i was pleased at its critical reception , I cant deny that IMO there wer issues in the game including THE DEATH and Abby.

I also think it detracted that it was telling three stories - Ellie, the war in Seattle, and Abby. For this reason I think it was not as perfect a game as the prev one and that will be reflected in sales and word of mouth. 



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