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Everything I download is digital, is what it is.



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Leynos said:
Once it goes I'm done with the modern gaming period. I like to own things and play them years after services shut down.

Then you should've been done with gaming or moved to PC since gen 7. Game ownership doesn't exist on consoles anymore since they got internet.



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vivster said:
Leynos said:
Once it goes I'm done with the modern gaming period. I like to own things and play them years after services shut down.

Then you should've been done with gaming or moved to PC since gen 7. Game ownership doesn't exist on consoles anymore since they got internet.

Noo,most games can be played offline without the need of the internet, yea ya cant download any patches, thats why i do my research to see if a game is broken at launch or not. 

Also almost all limitedrungames  are with patches on disc(there now at 370+ physical ps4 games released)

Thats the future of physical media, companies like lrg.



 

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xl-klaudkil said:
vivster said:

Then you should've been done with gaming or moved to PC since gen 7. Game ownership doesn't exist on consoles anymore since they got internet.

Noo,most games can be played offline without the need of the internet, yea ya cant download any patches, thats why i do my research to see if a game is broken at launch or not. 

Also almost all limitedrungames  are with patches on disc(there now at 370+ physical ps4 games released)

Thats the future of physical media, companies like lrg.

It's not about patches. It's about the console manufacturer being able to remove your ability to play a game or even read the disc at the push of a button. At that point you don't own the game anymore. That's what DRM is. You don't own the product, but only a license that can be revoked at any moment. On a console there is zero distinction between a physical and a digital game in terms of game ownership.

Actual game ownership today is exclusive to PC and even there it's not with some games or only with jumping through hoops.



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physical games won't go away, but they may be relegated to collector items and probably distributed on formats that need no special hardware in the console itself, like USB sticks



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Publishers like download because there is no second-hand market. That's pretty much all it gets them in reality though, as mass producing and shipping BluRays is basically pennies on their costs. They also lose out on the gift-side of the market, and old-skool shops don't promote or devote shelf space to downloadable games for obvious reasons.

Personally I like things like books, CDs and DVDs because you can go to someone's house and see what sort of things they have on their shelves. It's starting to be an increasingly expensive luxury though...

Even 9th gen from the reports so far sell more disc version than discless even with 100USD difference, so it isn't the end of physical media yet. And well if physical midia is removed then the used market is finished so I would most likely go be a pirate in PC or something similar.



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vivster said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Noo,most games can be played offline without the need of the internet, yea ya cant download any patches, thats why i do my research to see if a game is broken at launch or not. 

Also almost all limitedrungames  are with patches on disc(there now at 370+ physical ps4 games released)

Thats the future of physical media, companies like lrg.

It's not about patches. It's about the console manufacturer being able to remove your ability to play a game or even read the disc at the push of a button. At that point you don't own the game anymore. That's what DRM is. You don't own the product, but only a license that can be revoked at any moment. On a console there is zero distinction between a physical and a digital game in terms of game ownership.

Actual game ownership today is exclusive to PC and even there it's not with some games or only with jumping through hoops.

That's a big piece of bollocks, noo sony or anyone else won't just " push" a button so your ps4 bricks and cant play your physical games anymore, have any proof that even exist?

And explain how they will do that if your(or mine) ps4 isnt even connected.

Digital games are air, you own nothing  but air and a liscene to play.



 

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http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

So long as people keep buying physical media it will continue to be on consoles.

I don't trust console makers with online prices so I'll skip a new PS until much further in the generation if the next console is an all digital and wait for a mega sale. There's absolutely no way I'm buying an all digital console now with the increased prices on their web store.



xl-klaudkil said:
vivster said:

It's not about patches. It's about the console manufacturer being able to remove your ability to play a game or even read the disc at the push of a button. At that point you don't own the game anymore. That's what DRM is. You don't own the product, but only a license that can be revoked at any moment. On a console there is zero distinction between a physical and a digital game in terms of game ownership.

Actual game ownership today is exclusive to PC and even there it's not with some games or only with jumping through hoops.

That's a big piece of bollocks, noo sony or anyone else won't just " push" a button so your ps4 bricks and cant play your physical games anymore, have any proof that even exist?

And explain how they will do that if your(or mine) ps4 isnt even connected.

Digital games are air, you own nothing  but air and a liscene to play.

I have no idea how Sony would be able to prevent you from playing a physical offline game without breaking the law.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994