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Cerebralbore101 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
As someone who literally just tore down their PS4, like a full 100% teardown cleaned the dust and replaced the thermal paste with MX4.

I can't put into words how big of a step up in literally every department the construction of this thing is. Huge.

No more tiny blower fan.
No more tiny heatsink.
No bare, loud disk drive.
My PS4's paste was basically all gone, LIQUID METAL is crazy.

10/10 guys. really.

One thing that really pissed me off about the PS4 is how it overheated on me and died 3 separate times. Initially, I thought it was just because my roommate stored it in an area with poor ventilation. But he proved that wasn't the case. Not being able to do such a simple task as replace the thermal paste on my PS4 really killed it for me. The PS5 build looks like it's a little easier to take apart and put back together.

Anyway, how exactly did you manage to replace the thermal paste? I recently attempted a teardown of my brother's PS4 Slim, and found I would have needed to grind some bolts away just to get at the motherboard. It's at that point that I gave up.

I have the normal launch PS4. And You just need a phillips head and a T8 Torx screwdriver. Just remove the top 3 back Torx and the bottom Torx, slide off the hard drive and remove every screw you see. 

And just keep removing stuff until you get to the motherboard and flip it around to find the SoC, and you'll see 'probably' some dried out thermal paste that's barely even there anymore, and re-apply and do everything in reverse.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

One thing that really pissed me off about the PS4 is how it overheated on me and died 3 separate times. Initially, I thought it was just because my roommate stored it in an area with poor ventilation. But he proved that wasn't the case. Not being able to do such a simple task as replace the thermal paste on my PS4 really killed it for me. The PS5 build looks like it's a little easier to take apart and put back together.

Anyway, how exactly did you manage to replace the thermal paste? I recently attempted a teardown of my brother's PS4 Slim, and found I would have needed to grind some bolts away just to get at the motherboard. It's at that point that I gave up.

I have the normal launch PS4. And You just need a phillips head and a T8 Torx screwdriver. Just remove the top 3 back Torx and the bottom Torx, slide off the hard drive and remove every screw you see. 

And just keep removing stuff until you get to the motherboard and flip it around to find the SoC, and you'll see 'probably' some dried out thermal paste that's barely even there anymore, and re-apply and do everything in reverse.

alot of people bring up the thermal paste but the majority of cases it's the heat sink that's the problem. Make sure you check the heat sink for dust build up. Because i had replaced my thermal paste and issue wasn;t resolved till i vacuumed it all out. Mine went from sounding like a plane taking off, to a sleeping baby. 

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hinch said:
DonFerrari said:

And that doesn't count the hundreds of reposts for other languages and discussions.

Yeah the hype is real. Still trending 7th in youtube after a day. Coming off such a strong last few years of games people are just pumped to see a new PlayStation.

KratosLives said:
What's with these so called heating/noise issues?? My launch ps4 is quiet. Or was it a ps4 pro problem?

I have a early PS4 and mine can get quite noisy. Especially in demanding games like The Last of Us 2.

do you want a link on how to clean the heat sink from dust? tlou2 will be quit to play on like mine. 



KratosLives said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I have the normal launch PS4. And You just need a phillips head and a T8 Torx screwdriver. Just remove the top 3 back Torx and the bottom Torx, slide off the hard drive and remove every screw you see. 

And just keep removing stuff until you get to the motherboard and flip it around to find the SoC, and you'll see 'probably' some dried out thermal paste that's barely even there anymore, and re-apply and do everything in reverse.

alot of people bring up the thermal paste but the majority of cases it's the heat sink that's the problem. Make sure you check the heat sink for dust build up. Because i had replaced my thermal paste and issue wasn;t resolved till i vacuumed it all out.

I don't know of any somewhat recent console over the last couple gens that requires anything other than pulling off stickers, popping plastic apart, or unscrewing. If you're doing something else, you're missing something.

My 1200 PS4, was extremely clean inside, and new MX-4 thermal paste only helped a little bit. I honestly think the problem is the contact between the APU and heatsink. I've recently seen a vid where a modder shows how convex their PS4 Pro APU is, which leads to only a small amount of heatsink contact in the very center of the APU. The paste can only do so much and requires fairly snug contact across the entire chip to be efficient. I never looked that close at the time, but I can't think of anything else other than possibly a poorly binned chip that unfortunately runs hotter, and there's little you could do about that.

What I eventually did was purchase a fan (accelerator) adjuster, which easily plugs into the fan and mobo, where I can set the speed at which I want the fan to run most of the time. My PS4 fan now runs around 40% of it's total RPM the overwhelming majority of the time, and only when the system get's quite hot, does the fan adjuster allow the PS4 to take over and ramp the fan up even more so (50% ish) for a short period to bring the temp back down. Once the temp drops enough, the fan adjuster takes over again and keeps the fan at 40%. It's more noisy than letting it run at stock 20% or 30%, but the 40% RPM consistency makes it much more palatable while remaining reasonably quiet. Once you get over 50% it starts to get annoying, and more so as you go up beyond that.

Since the PS5 has a surround barrier designed to hold in the liquid metal, a little pool of it should help alleviate any convex or concave chip or heatsink issues, while still having great thermal transfer efficiency. As long as it works as intended and keeps the liquid metal safely inside, which based on it's conductive properties and multiple years of design and testing, SNY would be crazy to use it if they weren't sure it was foolproof.



ArchangelMadzz said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

One thing that really pissed me off about the PS4 is how it overheated on me and died 3 separate times. Initially, I thought it was just because my roommate stored it in an area with poor ventilation. But he proved that wasn't the case. Not being able to do such a simple task as replace the thermal paste on my PS4 really killed it for me. The PS5 build looks like it's a little easier to take apart and put back together.

Anyway, how exactly did you manage to replace the thermal paste? I recently attempted a teardown of my brother's PS4 Slim, and found I would have needed to grind some bolts away just to get at the motherboard. It's at that point that I gave up.

I have the normal launch PS4. And You just need a phillips head and a T8 Torx screwdriver. Just remove the top 3 back Torx and the bottom Torx, slide off the hard drive and remove every screw you see. 

And just keep removing stuff until you get to the motherboard and flip it around to find the SoC, and you'll see 'probably' some dried out thermal paste that's barely even there anymore, and re-apply and do everything in reverse.

Tempted to open up my PS4 and do this. I have a can of compressed air and some Thermalright TFX paste which when applied, should give much better thermals and lower noise. Only thing is, I have my PS5 coming soon so the PS4 will be relegated to a legacy console in my collection lol



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EricHiggin said:
KratosLives said:

alot of people bring up the thermal paste but the majority of cases it's the heat sink that's the problem. Make sure you check the heat sink for dust build up. Because i had replaced my thermal paste and issue wasn;t resolved till i vacuumed it all out.

I don't know of any somewhat recent console over the last couple gens that requires anything other than pulling off stickers, popping plastic apart, or unscrewing. If you're doing something else, you're missing something.

My 1200 PS4, was extremely clean inside, and new MX-4 thermal paste only helped a little bit. I honestly think the problem is the contact between the APU and heatsink. I've recently seen a vid where a modder shows how convex their PS4 Pro APU is, which leads to only a small amount of heatsink contact in the very center of the APU. The paste can only do so much and requires fairly snug contact across the entire chip to be efficient. I never looked that close at the time, but I can't think of anything else other than possibly a poorly binned chip that unfortunately runs hotter, and there's little you could do about that.

What I eventually did was purchase a fan (accelerator) adjuster, which easily plugs into the fan and mobo, where I can set the speed at which I want the fan to run most of the time. My PS4 fan now runs around 40% of it's total RPM the overwhelming majority of the time, and only when the system get's quite hot, does the fan adjuster allow the PS4 to take over and ramp the fan up even more so (50% ish) for a short period to bring the temp back down. Once the temp drops enough, the fan adjuster takes over again and keeps the fan at 40%. It's more noisy than letting it run at 20% or 30%, but the 40% RPM consistency makes it much more palatable while remaining reasonably quiet. Once you get over 50% it starts to get annoying, and more so as you go up beyond that.

Since the PS5 has a surround barrier designed to hold in the liquid metal, a little pool of it should help alleviate any convex or concave chip or heatsink issues, while still having great thermal transfer efficiency. As long as it works as intended and keeps the liquid metal safely inside, which based on it's conductive properties and multiple years of design and testing, SNY would be crazy to use it if they weren't sure it was foolproof.

so you never got to your heat sink?? As for the ps5, it should be pretty cool, but we don't know how extreme the apu gets since its overclocked all the time, so all that cooling is necessary. But the chief engineer did say in an interview, that generally the ps5 runs quieter than ps4. Whether or not the fan spikes during high iintensive games, we will find out. My room is well ventialted, ps4 stays quiet, also have an ac to keep the room cool during summer. 

Last edited by KratosLives - on 16 October 2020

KratosLives said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I have the normal launch PS4. And You just need a phillips head and a T8 Torx screwdriver. Just remove the top 3 back Torx and the bottom Torx, slide off the hard drive and remove every screw you see. 

And just keep removing stuff until you get to the motherboard and flip it around to find the SoC, and you'll see 'probably' some dried out thermal paste that's barely even there anymore, and re-apply and do everything in reverse.

alot of people bring up the thermal paste but the majority of cases it's the heat sink that's the problem. Make sure you check the heat sink for dust build up. Because i had replaced my thermal paste and issue wasn;t resolved till i vacuumed it all out. Mine went from sounding like a plane taking off, to a sleeping baby. 

I cleaned all the dust and changed the thermal paste. Dust was the biggest issue but might as well change the paste whilst you've got it disassembled.



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KratosLives said:
EricHiggin said:

I don't know of any somewhat recent console over the last couple gens that requires anything other than pulling off stickers, popping plastic apart, or unscrewing. If you're doing something else, you're missing something.

My 1200 PS4, was extremely clean inside, and new MX-4 thermal paste only helped a little bit. I honestly think the problem is the contact between the APU and heatsink. I've recently seen a vid where a modder shows how convex their PS4 Pro APU is, which leads to only a small amount of heatsink contact in the very center of the APU. The paste can only do so much and requires fairly snug contact across the entire chip to be efficient. I never looked that close at the time, but I can't think of anything else other than possibly a poorly binned chip that unfortunately runs hotter, and there's little you could do about that.

What I eventually did was purchase a fan (accelerator) adjuster, which easily plugs into the fan and mobo, where I can set the speed at which I want the fan to run most of the time. My PS4 fan now runs around 40% of it's total RPM the overwhelming majority of the time, and only when the system get's quite hot, does the fan adjuster allow the PS4 to take over and ramp the fan up even more so (50% ish) for a short period to bring the temp back down. Once the temp drops enough, the fan adjuster takes over again and keeps the fan at 40%. It's more noisy than letting it run at 20% or 30%, but the 40% RPM consistency makes it much more palatable while remaining reasonably quiet. Once you get over 50% it starts to get annoying, and more so as you go up beyond that.

Since the PS5 has a surround barrier designed to hold in the liquid metal, a little pool of it should help alleviate any convex or concave chip or heatsink issues, while still having great thermal transfer efficiency. As long as it works as intended and keeps the liquid metal safely inside, which based on it's conductive properties and multiple years of design and testing, SNY would be crazy to use it if they weren't sure it was foolproof.

so you never got to your heat sink?? As for the ps5, it should be pretty cool, but we don't know how extreme the apu gets since its overclocked all the time, so all that cooling is necessary. But the chief engineer did say in an interview, that generally the ps5 runs quieter than ps4. Whether or not the fan spikes during high iintensive games, we will find out. My room is well ventialted, ps4 stays quiet, also have an ac to keep the room cool during summer. 

I went over everything. Heatsink itself didn't have any dust on it other than a few particles. Same with the fan. The plastic housing the heatsink sits in had a super thin layer of dust which I could just wipe off. The entire internals of the console were extremely clean, which wasn't a huge surprise as the house is kept quite clean.

My PS4 used to get loud and annoying after about an hour by constantly having the fan ramp up and down the longer I played. It sits in an entertainment cabinet, yet the front and back are open and there's plenty of room on the sides for it to breathe. All my consoles have sat in there and never had a problem with heat recirculation. I've got rubber feet under it to raise it off the base a little more than the stock feet as well for better cooling underneath. With the fan adjuster, the noise it makes, while louder when idling, is reasonable and extremely consistent. I can play for hours and the fan only ramps up one step over my 40% setting like once or twice, for maybe 10 seconds and that's it. It's much much better than the stock fan curve set up.

The PS5 APU isn't OC'd. It's designed to run at higher clocks, and those clocks are somewhat variable with fairly consistent power. The way the PS5 APU operates is like an advanced variation of how a typical PC CPU/APU operates. Along with that, only the most recent AMD laptops have SmartShift tech in them, which the PS5 happens to be using. It's also unlike with a PC, where if you decide to OC your CPU/APU, you really need to install a beefier cooler to handle the excess heat, plus to keep the noise down, not to mention higher end TIM is recommended. The PS5 cooling system is designed to handle the APU naturally running at higher clocks. It will never be pushing the clocks beyond what the cooling system can handle without becoming a concern.

It's pretty clear when you look at the launch PS4 size and it's cooling system vs the launch PS5 size and it's cooling system, SNY is making sure noise will not be a problem. A giant shell, with large heatsink, big fan, and highly efficient TIM, screams SNY is serious about cooling and noise for PS5.