Trump had little control over how covid spread from China. Could he really have kept it out of America? Could he really have without a doubt, halved the deaths? If he had, would that have been good enough? What number would be reasonable? Something we can never know for sure and something that really doesn't have certain answers because even 25,000 deaths would've been considered too much because one is said to be too much.

What about his supporters who do wear masks? How many do vs how many don't? How many with masks unfortunately spread it anyway? 

Well you could argue Pence based on his religious beliefs, who Trump picked to be his VP. Some say it always goes up to Trump because he's Prez so again, it would matter to some degree in that case.

Trump had little control over how covid spread from China. Could he really have kept it out of America? Could he really have without a doubt, halved the deaths? If he had, would that have been good enough? What number would be reasonable? Something we can never know for sure and something that really doesn't have certain answers because even 25,000 deaths would've been considered too much because one is said to be too much.

What about his supporters who do wear masks? How many do vs how many don't? How many with masks unfortunately spread it anyway? 

Well you could argue Pence based on his religious beliefs, who Trump picked to be his VP. Some say it always goes up to Trump because he's Prez so again, it would matter to some degree in that case.

I find this post interesting.

JWeinCom states that Trump has contributed to the damage done by coronavirus through his downplaying of masks. In response, you immediately start talking about China (irrelevant), whether he could have really kept it out of America (also irrelevant), whether he could have halved the deaths (also irrelevant) and other irrelevant ponderings. It is interesting that you would respond to such a specific allegation with so many irrelevant hypotheticals which even you acknowledge have no answer.

Then, when you get to masks, you ask some rather bizarre questions. Exactly what are you getting at when you say "what about his supporters who do wear masks"? I agree. What about them? Same with your last question. Why are people wearing masks who still spread the disease relevant, unless you are insisting that masks don't make people safer? If you are making that point, why broach it in the form of an untargeted hypothetical instead of as an argument? Why do these questions matter here?

If we look at the data on mask wearing, we see a strong and consistent partisan divide. I think you would be fooling yourself if you didn't believe that Trump in some way has contributed to this phenomenon. As such, there should be no real question about whether Trump's continued downplaying masks contributed to some amount of suffering and death among the American people. 

This post feels like smoke screening to me. Just throwing out as many untargeted points as you can, distracting those you are speaking with from the real point, without ever really engaging with what the person you are responding to said. 

not remotely his fault?

Does this include the person who died from drinking pool cleaner after trump talking about an unproven medicine hydrochloriquine

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

Don't worry, everyone American has access to the same around the clock medical treatment and care that the president got, with their own sealed off ward in Walter Reed Hospital, access to experimental drugs, and unlimited tax dollars to pay for it.

And you'll also be allowed to break guidelines and leave after only 3 days. 

Trump had little control over how covid spread from China. Could he really have kept it out of America? Could he really have without a doubt, halved the deaths? If he had, would that have been good enough? What number would be reasonable? Something we can never know for sure and something that really doesn't have certain answers because even 25,000 deaths would've been considered too much because one is said to be too much.

What about his supporters who do wear masks? How many do vs how many don't? How many with masks unfortunately spread it anyway? 

Well you could argue Pence based on his religious beliefs, who Trump picked to be his VP. Some say it always goes up to Trump because he's Prez so again, it would matter to some degree in that case.

"Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life." - Donald J. Trump

I should have known better. Fuck me.

Susan Collins keeps saying the same thing.

Trump is too arrogant and pigheaded to learn anything. 

Trump needed to initiate action much faster and much more cohesively. - De-funding various agencies that deal with this obviously wasn't a good idea either.

Personally I think a full investigation on how the Coronavirus was managed in the United States needs to be performed and if needed, bring Trump in front of a court of law and charged with mismanagement.
I would push for that regardless of who the person sitting at the very top was, they are still responsible for the entire nation.

So whilst yes, Trump has stated that even "one death is to much". - The high death rate I believe is still directly attributed to his messaging and lack of action, he spent more time moaning about his opponents and shifting the blame on everyone else than doing his actual job.

There is more than a lack of action. He left it up to the states, but when they did things he didn’t like, he undermined local efforts to control the virus and encouraged his followers to do the same, especially in Democratic and battleground states. 

Unfortunately, tradition dictates that you cannot indict a sitting president, and an impeachment would go nowhere. Mitch McConnell would likely refuse to even hold another trial in the Senate, not that it would matter. The Constitution requires two thirds of all Senators to vote for a conviction for a president to be removed from office. And the next Republican president will pardon him. His hearings on the federal coronavirus response should dwarf those of Watergate. This is one of the absolute worst things a president has ever done to the American people.