If people are going to vote for Trump just because other people hate him, then they are voting for really irrational reasons, and there's probably not much that could have been done to reach them in any event.

Same as the people who say they're voting for Biden solely because they hate Trump and want him out. That's just as irrational. Like you said though, there's not much you can do for anyone who operates this way.

Same as the people who say they're voting for Biden solely because they hate Trump and want him out. That's just as irrational. Like you said though, there's not much you can do for anyone who operates this way.

Same as the people who say they're voting for Biden solely because they hate Trump and want him out. That's just as irrational. Like you said though, there's not much you can do for anyone who operates this way.

Except in this case, Trump is the incumbent President. At this point, voters have had four years to evaluate his performance, and a lot of people have found his governing ability to be severely wanting in the first term, to say the least. So for those people who deeply despise Trump and what he has done, or not done, during his first term as President, it is not at all irrational to want to fire him and turn the Presidency over to somebody who will hopefully not screw things up even worse. Trump had his chance. Biden, on the other hand, has yet to serve in office. 

There is also a difference between voting for a candidate because you don't like the other guy, and voting for a candidate because you don't like the members of your community, state, or country who don't support your guy and you hope that your guy will pass laws and policies that will harm them.

No, it's not the same at all.

On the one hand you're voting for the alternative because you hate a candidate and presumably hate the other less.

On the other hand, you're voting for a candidate because other people hate him, regardless of what you actually think about either candidate.

The first situation is like being at a table with 10 people and being offered a Dr. Pepper or a Sprite. You're dying of thirst and have to drink one. You hate Dr. Pepper, and don't hate Sprite as much, so you choose Sprite.

The second situation is like being at a table with 10 people and being offered a Dr. Pepper or a Sprite. You're dying of thirst and have to drink one. The other 9 people at the table all start yelling about how Dr. Pepper is the most disgusting beverage ever. Because of that you drink the Dr. Pepper regardless of which drink you actually think is better.

The first is rational, the second is not.

Those candidates are there on behalf of the people, for the people.

If Trump supporters were constantly voicing that they wished death to Biden, would you assume those people and Trump have good intentions no matter how great his platform and optics seemed? Would you want their choice leading the country for all? Would the media ignore it because it's just irrational nonsense, or would they focus on it bigly because it would be a major concern?

Personally, I wouldn't care at all, in regards to the election.

There are a ton of right wing people who celebrated the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I'm sure 99% of them will be voting Trump.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/09/christian-extremists-celebrating-ruth-bader-ginsburgs-death/

Trump did nothing to encourage this, and was actually fairly respectful in his comments.

So, I don't hold Trump accountable for those people, and am not considering them at all in my decision on who to vote for. Should I?

Extremists are gunna extreme. It's unfortunate but both sides gotta deal with it. Trumps response was legit. Short and sweet but legit. Praising RBG death is beyond distasteful and certainly shameful.

Everything needs to be taken into account. It may be such a small percentage to you personally that you don't care, but it should count to some degree.

I don't support either side in this when all is said and done. So even if it is naive, I am just trying to see the good in people. I am trying to see things from both sides. I am just curious, from where are you getting your news from? Because according to the left: Trump supports white supremacy and violence, inciting the Proud Boys to violence, and the only way to stop this madness is to get him out of office. According to the right: the democrats want no law inforcement, they will not denounce riots from BLM and Antifa. There has been hatred and violence on both sides. I don't think Trump is a nice person but I don't think he is an evil person. I think the media smears him and people believe it. Both sides are trying to cause panic (in different ways) to ensure their victory in the election. 

Were the numbers not originally 2 million Americans for this year? I'm just trying to understand. We do not have all of the facts. We still do not really know much about this disease, as if we did, it would be under control and we would have a vaccine. From my perspective as a neighbour, I saw the left smear Trump as xenophobic when he closed off China. It is like a lose lose situation. Anything that he would have done would have been scrutinized in one way or another. 

I hate death. Death is the reason why I am crippled by anxiety. Any death is too many from this disease. But I believe that it would have happened with any other president. I just cannot understand placing blame solely on him and never recognizing anything good that he has done. What about his historic peace deals? Are they not important because of the pandemic?  

Honestly, I am just trying to get all sides, but I cannot agree with either. People are too extreme one way or another and aren't going to change their minds. Hatred isn't a healthy motivator. Anger is. You can have righteous anger. You cannot have righteous hatred. When you hate one side, or one person, and you put out that hate. How will that heal tensions?  How will that bring about positive change? It won't.