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I think the best is...

Original series 8 11.94%
 
The Next Generation 34 50.75%
 
Deep Space Nine 8 11.94%
 
Voyager 11 16.42%
 
Enterprise 3 4.48%
 
Discovery 2 2.99%
 
Picard 1 1.49%
 
Total:67
curl-6 on 14 May 2021

Now that I've watched the first season of The Orville, (the only one I could online for free) I must say, I did indeed enjoy it quite a bit more than either Discovery or Picard.

It feels like a good blend of Next Generation and Galaxy-Quest-esque spoof. Very fun.



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Leynos on 14 May 2021
curl-6 said:

Now that I've watched the first season of The Orville, (the only one I could online for free) I must say, I did indeed enjoy it quite a bit more than either Discovery or Picard.

It feels like a good blend of Next Generation and Galaxy-Quest-esque spoof. Very fun.

S2 is a big improvement.



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curl-6 on 14 May 2021
Leynos said:
curl-6 said:

Now that I've watched the first season of The Orville, (the only one I could online for free) I must say, I did indeed enjoy it quite a bit more than either Discovery or Picard.

It feels like a good blend of Next Generation and Galaxy-Quest-esque spoof. Very fun.

S2 is a big improvement.

Annoyingly, the site I have access to, SBS on demand, only has season 1. I couldn't find any other free-to-watch places with season 2 and as I am already paying for two different streaming platforms I am loathe to subscribe to any more.

God I hate this war of the streaming platforms where you'd need like 10 subscriptions to watch everything.



Leynos on 14 May 2021

Hulu



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Leynos on 14 May 2021
shikamaru317 said:
Leynos said:

S2 is a big improvement.

Yeah, season 2 tones down the controversial spoof comedy of the first season and takes things more seriously. The comedy is still present, there is just less of it, but still more than the typical Trek show. Season 2's best episode, the 2 parter Identity, is considered by many to be as good as the best Star Trek two parters. My only real complaint about season 2 is that they wrote my waifu off the show due to her actress and Seth MacFarlane breaking up in real life, it caused a strained work relationship supposedly, plus she wanted to pursue other acting roles. Her replacement just isn't as good. They left the door open for her to return in the future, I really hope he is back in season 3 for at least some episodes. 

Not a trek show until a female cast member leaves lol



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SvennoJ on 14 May 2021

I haven't watched any Star Trek show anymore since the streaming wars took them away. Thanks to that, the prices for cable went up as well and I lost the sci-fi channel so now no more sci-fi at all. Great going.

Anyway STD was bad when it was still on TV, Picard was nice to see the old gang again but the show was no good, the Orville and the Expanse pulled behind different pay walls, Dark Matter was cancelled but was on sci-fi which I lost access to. Travellers lost its stream, as well as that other time travel thingie Timeless. Dr Who got pulled somewhere else.

Thanks to the streaming wars I'm pretty much sci-fi cured :/ Currently watching Kingdom on Netflix, Chinese zombies. (The usual flashbacks all the time, getting really annoyed with that format, overused in every show nowadays)



curl-6 on 15 May 2021

I think what I liked about Orville more than Discovery/Picard was that it wasn't so relentlessly edgelord and grimdark, and still had a focus on mystery and light philosophy instead of constant exhausting action.

It still had that spirit of optimism and curiosity about the universe that made the older Trek shows so appealing.

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Leynos on 16 May 2021

Alex also created the failed Dark Universe and wrote Amazing Spiderman 2. The guy is a hack. Trek asked us what makes us human. New Dreck is kung fu crap about destiny. They have Spock doing karate kicks. Klingon porn. It's a trash chute. Nimoy created the neck pinch thinking Vulcans would find a more civilized way to be "violent" Nothing about STD and Discard makes any damn sense.



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curl-6 on 25 May 2021

Finally got around to finishing Enterprise.
It really does pick up in Season 3 and 4 after the rather slow and uneven first two seasons. It's a shame it was cut short, and the final episode really does reek of a last-minute plug pull.
It still ranks below Next Gen, DS9, and Voyager for me, but now that I've seen the whole thing I'd still rank it above Discovery and Picard.



curl-6 on 25 May 2021
shikamaru317 said:
curl-6 said:

Finally got around to finishing Enterprise.
It really does pick up in Season 3 and 4 after the rather slow and uneven first two seasons. It's a shame it was cut short, and the final episode really does reek of a last-minute plug pull.
It still ranks below Next Gen, DS9, and Voyager for me, but now that I've seen the whole thing I'd still rank it above Discovery and Picard.

Agreed. The first 2 seasons were rough, but 3 and 4 were pretty great. It's just a shame that so many fans abandoned the show during the first 2 seasons, that abandonment lead to weak ratings for season 3 and 4 even though they were good, ultimately leading to an early cancellation. The writers had big plans for seasons 5-7, including a refit of the NX-01 to make it look more like the TOS Enterprise, in order to bridge the design gap:

Other things they had planned for seasons 5-7 were showing the terrible Vulcans of the early seasons starting to shift into the lovable Vulcans of later series on the timeline, the Romulan Wars that lead to the creation of the Neutral zone, more species joining the 4 core Federation species, a Borg Queen origin story showing a Federation medical officer played by Alice Krige making contact with the Borg from Enterprise's season 2 Borg episode and becoming the Borg Queen of First Contact and Voyager, a continuation of the Mirror Universe storyline from earlier seasons, a reveal that T'Pol's father was a Romulan spy making T'Pol half Romulan, a visit to Phlox's home planet of Denobula, an episode focused on the immortal human character Flint from TOS, a visit to the Cloud city of Stratos which had long been mentioned in Star Trek but was never properly shown. The Doctor Who showrunner also said that there was talk of a Doctor Who Enterprise crossover episode before Enterprise was cancelled.

Agreed about how rushed the last episode was. Was the ultimate F U to the cast, making the final episode half TNG. 

Far out, nearly all of that sounds awesome, really sucks that none of it got the chance to happen. It really seems to have been the last gasp of classic Trek, and it deserved a better sendoff.

Nothing since in either film or TV has really had that inquisitive, philosophical, and optimistic spirit that characterized Star Trek from the original series through to Enterprise. I mean, I enjoyed the 2009 reboot and Into Darkness for what they were, but they felt more like Star Wars than Star Trek.

I'm glad I gave Enterprise a second chance after not really liking the early episodes I saw as a kid.