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Intrinsic said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure both were playing chicken, but from what was discovered from MS leak they were planning to reveal S and price this week (and seemling sony as well, but they decided to give themselves extra days to as you said gauge the market and fine tune their price) and sure I agree that they had several price point and marketing bullets prepared to use depending on what the competitor that gone first revealed. But truly is a lot of coincidence that both were gearing to reveal on the same week and short after NVidia revealed their new GPU family.

I just don't see Nvidia having anything to do with it. I would write that off to just coincidence. There isn't anything Nvidiacould have announced that would anyway impact the announcements of next-gen console pricing or release dates. 

I believe that holistically there are, and have always been bounds to which both Sony and MS are confined to as to just how far they could hold back these announcements. It could never have been later than September, especially if they plan for a November launch. The primary reason for this is that pre-orders (when pricing is available) provides the most accurate gauge of demand specific to ever region they are in. That in turn feeds into how their very limited launch shipments are shared by region. And even how many units they should be aiming to make in the first 3-6 months.

This price game they had been playing could only go so far, this is why after MS announcements (in another thread), I said that at the very least, the main takeaway from this is that we can now confirm that a PS5 announcement will happen before Sept. 22.

Sure nothing NVidia would announce would impact price and date for consoles. But could impact price and date of AMD GPUs, and being the GPU in the consoles of the same family, they revealing power and price would give better intel to NVidia of the prices AMD would likely practice with their GPUs.

The expected launch of PS5 will probably be close to XSX XSS and is close to the timeframe of PS4 and X1, still those two got their price revealed long before. And certainly 2 months if enough for preorder. And yes they had their limited timeframe to act and were using as most as possible.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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At this point I have no friggin idea what to expect. I could literally see anything from 399-699 based on how people are talking about it. I still maintain it'll either be 499/449 or 449/399

But at this point this post is just a tag for the thread so I can keep up on what people are discussing until what I presume is going to be the announcement tomorrow. It speaks volumes that I often forget about Ubisoft and Microsoft events but am hyped and have been for this event since I learned about it. What can I say? The combo of Sony/Nintendo is basically perfect!



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

Considering they are even making a digital version at launch, i think if the disk version is anywhere at 399$, they didn't had to. The fact they are having problems manufacturing and shipping (by air which is so expensive), they probably won't take 100$ hit on each system as well.

I would go with conservative 499 and 449. But i have a feeling it will be 549$ and 499$.



My wallet supports your prediction ... my brain doesn't.



BraLoD said:
PDF said:
The delay in price signals that they were originally high compared to the Xbox X. I bet we see a $499 PS5 and $399-$449 PS5 Digital.

I don't see the logic behind that.

Sony is waiting for MS because they are announcing it this week? MS just announced it as well, and because of data steal, otherwise they would also announce it this week.

So why is Sony price based on MS and not the other way around? What is the difference to point it as Sony is the one worried about MS price? Shouldn't it be the opposite?

Sony is the one that can get better with higher prices because of Playstation's higher brand power, why would they be more worried than MS as they are the ones to win over them every single time?

If people want to suspect anything it should be the other way around... but that would also be unfair.

Both Sony and MS are aware of its competitor and wanting to make the best move, that's just business, but if anything Sony is the one that needs to worry the least.

Yep I won`t say none were worried about the other pricing, but preferred to wait to have better chance of adjusting if possible. MS lost the chance with the leak and confirming (or perhaps planned that way because they were confident that even Sony best shot wouldn`t damage them), but I agree Sony is on a very safe position so claiming they are afraid or freaking out is just ludicrous.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep I won`t say none were worried about the other pricing, but preferred to wait to have better chance of adjusting if possible. MS lost the chance with the leak and confirming (or perhaps planned that way because they were confident that even Sony best shot wouldn`t damage them), but I agree Sony is on a very safe position so claiming they are afraid or freaking out is just ludicrous.

Indeed, this kind of stuff about Sony is spread at a ludicrous speed.

Very neutral and anti-warmongering of course.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I though you would say that you wanted more competition because it would drive the traffic up.

But for that to happen I think we need to get back on speed for weekly sales numbers and also for SW (including a way to estimate digital sales and subs).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

Runa216 said:
trunkswd said:
We will (hopefully) know the price of the PS5 in just under 24 hours. I am hoping for a more competitive generation as that will lead to a better and more robust first-party lineup from Microsoft and Sony.

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 

Totally agree with you that I got a lot more value than I paid for on PS4 and prior, but also probably wouldn`t pay the value I thought because I would be short on cash.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Runa216 said:

I hope for this, too...but I also hope for Covid to end tomorrow and for [insert political lambasting of a party here] to stop being foolish about it, but the last few years have done nothing to give that impression. I just don't trust people to not be stupid and I don't trust Microsoft to deliver on, like, ANY of their promises. 

At this point I'm happy going back to just having a PS and Nintendo console. I bought Xboxes in Gen 7 and 8 after not bothering in gen 6, but given that I literally spent more time updating the firmware on my Xbox One than I spent playing exclusive games on it...well, I'm not spending that money again. Fool me once and all that. 

On the flip side, I've enjoyed the Ps4 and Switch so much that...yeah, I would be happy to pay 599 for a Ps5 if need be. I know that's, from a market perspective, a very bad price...but the amount of time and love I got out of the Ps4 and the fact that I still have a launch console that works perfectly 7 years later tells me that even if it was 999, it'd still be worth it. (I wouldn't pay that much, but value is subjective). Like I said in another thread, I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a bit of a fangirl. 20+ years of delivering the goods, giving us great games, and being reliable consoles (no Red Rings or system failures) tells me that...yeah, they're worth investing time and money into. I'll happily pay whatever they ask becuase my Nintendo and Playstation consoles are a significant part of my life and worth every penny. 

Hell, I might go play Dark Souls III with some friends, just for the hell of it. 

 

Totally agree with you that I got a lot more value than I paid for on PS4 and prior, but also probably wouldn`t pay the value I thought because I would be short on cash.

Literally the only thing that  might keep me from getting a PS5 at launch is the reality that I'm poor as hell right now. I'm a writer and I pretty exclusively do commissions...and with so many people being out of work or struggling, it's so very hard to find clientele. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android