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DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

But 4k 60fps with ray tracing tho

That will be a never ending chase =p because then next year they will put even more effects and you need to dial down. And DLSS2.0 have its shortcomings and artifacts added.

True, but the leaps aren't usually this big. Night and day compared to my current GPU, plus DLSS 2.0 is identical to native in motion. If you pause and pixel peep side by side there are slight differences but nothing that is detectable during gameplay. 

I'd rather spend the money to get the improved performance at a higher resolution when it's a viable option, compared to launch day of PS5. As said before, I'm still getting a PS5 just not straight away anymore as I can't afford to do both. 90% of games I play on PC and the rest 10% are PS Exclusives, there aren't going to be many for a while so I'd rather enjoy the benefits of shiny new things in my main gaming machine.



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eva01beserk said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Well, I don't know if you'd be able to get double the performance of a 3080 in three years or not. @Pemalite How does 2015's 980 Ti launching at $695 compare to 2018's 2080 at around $700? Is the 2080 double the performance of the 980 Ti?

 Back to @eva01beserk ...

Games don't become outdated within three years. Ten? Perhaps. But tons of games out there have aged wonderfully.

Nvedia are claiming a 2x performance on a 2 year old card for the same price with the 3080. I dont belive it, and digital foundry stated that to not be the case and more like 80%, but its still a 2 year old card. next year the ti's will probably be far above it. Probably higher prices, so its gona be harder to compare to a card with the exact same cost. but we will see. 

Not all games, but a lot of them do. think of any call of duty, fifa, maden, forza. Sony's games dont tend to be outdated in 3 years, but that dosent mean that in 3 years another game wont be released by sony that beats that 3 year old game in every way and your more inclined to play that one over the old one.

Same price? The 2080 Ti was $1200 launch. 3080 is $700.

Lol you just managed to list every lame yearly series.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

That will be a never ending chase =p because then next year they will put even more effects and you need to dial down. And DLSS2.0 have its shortcomings and artifacts added.

True, but the leaps aren't usually this big. Night and day compared to my current GPU, plus DLSS 2.0 is identical to native in motion. If you pause and pixel peep side by side there are slight differences but nothing that is detectable during gameplay. 

I'd rather spend the money to get the improved performance at a higher resolution when it's a viable option, compared to launch day of PS5. As said before, I'm still getting a PS5 just not straight away anymore as I can't afford to do both. 90% of games I play on PC and the rest 10% are PS Exclusives, there aren't going to be many for a while so I'd rather enjoy the benefits of shiny new things in my main gaming machine.

Well from what I saw on the DF videos even though DLSS is quite good it isn't identical, also PS5 and Xbox will have their own machine learning upscale techniques. And yes the leaps aren't 80% on 2 years but still you don't really need the jump, but sure I completely understand your reason to wanting to do so, but well for me that is to much money for a small gain. If you were talking about having a old GPU that wouldn't be able to play next gen decently then sure go for it, but I don't think in the end the gains will be all you think they will be. 80% gain on DF comparison when considered diminishing returns won't really translate to that much visual gain. But again that is your main platform so for you it may make a lot more sense than it would for me =p

Also you don't really need PS5 at launch, you could do fine on waiting 2 years on both and saving some =p (well I expect PS5 to drop price in 2 to 3 years, but not that experienced with GPUs to say how much you would have to wait to see a drop on 3080).



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Cerebralbore101 said:
eva01beserk said:

Nvedia are claiming a 2x performance on a 2 year old card for the same price with the 3080. I dont belive it, and digital foundry stated that to not be the case and more like 80%, but its still a 2 year old card. next year the ti's will probably be far above it. Probably higher prices, so its gona be harder to compare to a card with the exact same cost. but we will see. 

Not all games, but a lot of them do. think of any call of duty, fifa, maden, forza. Sony's games dont tend to be outdated in 3 years, but that dosent mean that in 3 years another game wont be released by sony that beats that 3 year old game in every way and your more inclined to play that one over the old one.

Same price? The 2080 Ti was $1200 launch. 3080 is $700.

Lol you just managed to list every lame yearly series.

???? Did you read the sides or watched digital foundry's video? Nvidea claimed a 2x performance from the 2080 a $700 card, to a 3080 a $700 card. the video on digital foundry was a comparison of the 2080 to the 3080. At not point did they even mentioned the 2080ti.

Oh there are more lame yearly series and I hate them all as well and there are plenty more. Just giving examples of games that dont last even a year. 



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Well I think I have my answer from before. Here's a video comparing the 980 Ti to the 2080 Super

That's not exactly double the performance across the board. And my question had to do with the 2080, not the Super version. So it took four years for a card to come out and double what the 980 Ti did for the same price.

And if anybody wants to argue that the 3080 will be out of date in four years, then I just have one response. PS5 Pro.



Wait a minute, super? your card is only a year old? and your already planing an upgrade? how often do you upgrade? If its so frequent why not just get the ps5 now as that wont drop in value and you wont need another for another 4 years minimum if theres a possibility your just gona get another soon anyways.



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eva01beserk said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Same price? The 2080 Ti was $1200 launch. 3080 is $700.

Lol you just managed to list every lame yearly series.

???? Did you read the sides or watched digital foundry's video? Nvidea claimed a 2x performance from the 2080 a $700 card, to a 3080 a $700 card. the video on digital foundry was a comparison of the 2080 to the 3080. At not point did they even mentioned the 2080ti.

Oh there are more lame yearly series and I hate them all as well and there are plenty more. Just giving examples of games that dont last even a year. 

Ah I see. Sorry for the confusion.



eva01beserk said:
Wait a minute, super? your card is only a year old? and your already planing an upgrade? how often do you upgrade? If its so frequent why not just get the ps5 now as that wont drop in value and you wont need another for another 4 years minimum if theres a possibility your just gona get another soon anyways.

Not often, I love my super, it's a great card, I got it because 4k60fps wasn't possible across the board so I went for high refresh rate 1440p even the 2080ti struggled to do it and that was a ridiculously expensive option at £1200. 

Now that it's more than possible I'd rather use my PS5 money on a 3080 than a launch PS5. 
I won't be getting a 4080 (lol we'll see if I stick to that) and will keep the 3080 until 5000 series. So about 4 years.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
eva01beserk said:

???? Did you read the sides or watched digital foundry's video? Nvidea claimed a 2x performance from the 2080 a $700 card, to a 3080 a $700 card. the video on digital foundry was a comparison of the 2080 to the 3080. At not point did they even mentioned the 2080ti.

Oh there are more lame yearly series and I hate them all as well and there are plenty more. Just giving examples of games that dont last even a year. 

Ah I see. Sorry for the confusion.

no worries its Not just you. I think nvedia played a little to much with that presentation. There seems to be a lot of confusion. Even digital foundry dint really give real performance in frame rate like they usually do. they had instead a percentage that said how much better the 3080 is over the 2080. I cant say I remember if they even said what the actual frame rate the cards where achieving. 

I guess we just gotta wait untill the embargo is done. 



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