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chakkra said:
Intrinsic said:
The sad reality of this is that even if they waited till October to give out al the info for what would be a November launch, it wouldn't make a difference to them with regards to the sales.

It's just annoying to s because this isn't what we are accustomed to with regards to consoles. I mean, do we really need to know what the prices are and all that other stuff 4-5 months before launch? Hell Nvidia just announced their new range of GPUs less than 20 days before they launch. And the cheapest one costs $499.

It would be great if we knew, but them telling us 3-6 months early is honestly a courtesy... a misguided one at that.

Make no mistake, this pisses me the hell off, though I can understand where they are coming from too.

Agreed.

I'm actually starting to wish for them to wait until next month to reveal their prices just to get some people even more pissed.

I'm at this point as well. If Sony doesn't have any big announcements for the PlayStation US 25th Anniversary, then I would rather not hear anything until October.

Microsoft has dropped the ball so bad, that I am honestly having a hard time getting excited for Xbox Series. I am almost tempted to just see what AMD's new GPU's look like and buy one of them instead. This is in stark contrast to where I was back in April. I was basically ready to put the PC on the back burner and just get the Series X.

JRPGfan said:

Within the next two weeks we should have prices and dates right?
it cant go on, its time one of them moves and does a announcement.

I have to agree with Intrinsic, niether one has any reason to show anything until October. They are not gaining or loosing anything by giving us full details this month. Just as they didn't gain or loose anything giving us full details a a year or 6 months ahead in previous generations.

I think we are going to learn to start getting used to this, as I believe it is going to be the case going forwards with PS5.1, PS5.2, PS5.3, PS5... and XBSX1, XBSX2, XBSX3, and so on. By the time the PS6/XB5 gen comes along, I could easily see things being revealed publicly in the same time space as most other electronics, only weeks away from release.



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For the people that wants Sony/Microsoft to wait until October for prices...do y’all not want to preorder or something



Like some ppl said, i rly think Nvidia took MS and Sony by surprise with rtx 3070, rtx 2080ti power level for only 500$. I think they both wanted to price console at 550 or 600$ but now they are most likely afraid so they just wait other company to release price first so they can match that price. Only one thing is for sure, both MS and Sony are going to start next gen with big losses.



KBG29 said:

Microsoft has dropped the ball so bad, that I am honestly having a hard time getting excited for Xbox Series. I am almost tempted to just see what AMD's new GPU's look like and buy one of them instead. This is in stark contrast to where I was back in April. I was basically ready to put the PC on the back burner and just get the Series X.

As it stands, I honestly can' think of a single reason why anyone would buy an Xbox. Maybe I am just a sony shrill, but I would like to thnk I am being practical here as I can't say the same thing about the switch. Why get an XSX when you can get a PC? As crazy as it may sound, I would sooner spend $1000 - $1200 building a PC from the ground up than spending $500 getting an XSX. And f I already have the bones of a great PC, I would sooner spend $500 on an RTX 3070 or AMDs equivalent card than to get an XSX. Simply because EVERYTHING that XSX has to offer is also on the PC.

Can't say the same for Playstation or the Switch.

KBG29 said:

I have to agree with Intrinsic, niether one has any reason to show anything until October. They are not gaining or loosing anything by giving us full details this month. Just as they didn't gain or loose anything giving us full details a a year or 6 months ahead in previous generations.

I think we are going to learn to start getting used to this, as I believe it is going to be the case going forwards with PS5.1, PS5.2, PS5.3, PS5... and XBSX1, XBSX2, XBSX3, and so on. By the time the PS6/XB5 gen comes along, I could easily see things being revealed publicly in the same time space as most other electronics, only weeks away from release.

Well, after the launch of the Pro, sony did say they were looking to adopt Apple's announce and release strategy. Guess we should all have taken that more seriously lol.



Intrinsic said:
KBG29 said:

Microsoft has dropped the ball so bad, that I am honestly having a hard time getting excited for Xbox Series. I am almost tempted to just see what AMD's new GPU's look like and buy one of them instead. This is in stark contrast to where I was back in April. I was basically ready to put the PC on the back burner and just get the Series X.

As it stands, I honestly can' think of a single reason why anyone would buy an Xbox. Maybe I am just a sony shrill, but I would like to thnk I am being practical here as I can't say the same thing about the switch. Why get an XSX when you can get a PC? As crazy as it may sound, I would sooner spend $1000 - $1200 building a PC from the ground up than spending $500 getting an XSX. And f I already have the bones of a great PC, I would sooner spend $500 on an RTX 3070 or AMDs equivalent card than to get an XSX. Simply because EVERYTHING that XSX has to offer is also on the PC.

Can't say the same for Playstation or the Switch.

KBG29 said:

I have to agree with Intrinsic, niether one has any reason to show anything until October. They are not gaining or loosing anything by giving us full details this month. Just as they didn't gain or loose anything giving us full details a a year or 6 months ahead in previous generations.

I think we are going to learn to start getting used to this, as I believe it is going to be the case going forwards with PS5.1, PS5.2, PS5.3, PS5... and XBSX1, XBSX2, XBSX3, and so on. By the time the PS6/XB5 gen comes along, I could easily see things being revealed publicly in the same time space as most other electronics, only weeks away from release.

Well, after the launch of the Pro, sony did say they were looking to adopt Apple's announce and release strategy. Guess we should all have taken that more seriously lol.

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It is annoying but at least all the details should finally get revealed this month so not much longer to wait. Having to wait far longer to get all the details is one of multiple bad things that have come about from E3 not happening this year.

Intrinsic said:
KBG29 said:

Microsoft has dropped the ball so bad, that I am honestly having a hard time getting excited for Xbox Series. I am almost tempted to just see what AMD's new GPU's look like and buy one of them instead. This is in stark contrast to where I was back in April. I was basically ready to put the PC on the back burner and just get the Series X.

As it stands, I honestly can' think of a single reason why anyone would buy an Xbox. Maybe I am just a sony shrill, but I would like to thnk I am being practical here as I can't say the same thing about the switch. Why get an XSX when you can get a PC? As crazy as it may sound, I would sooner spend $1000 - $1200 building a PC from the ground up than spending $500 getting an XSX. And f I already have the bones of a great PC, I would sooner spend $500 on an RTX 3070 or AMDs equivalent card than to get an XSX. Simply because EVERYTHING that XSX has to offer is also on the PC.

Can't say the same for Playstation or the Switch.

You mentioned the main reason, price. A capable PC that's at least comparable in power to the XSX will cost about 2-3 times as much and that's not including the monitor since you'll want a good monitor to go along with a capable PC if you're not gonna connect it to a tv. Due to stuff like not paying for online the price difference will be made up over time but the entry cost is far higher and that's a major turn off to a lot of people. Another reason is if most of someone's friends play on Xbox and they play together often though thanks to crossplay that shouldn't really be much of a factor anymore in 2-3 years.



It’s a frustrating game of chicken. Sony always wait for MS to go first but MS doesn’t want another 2013 price undercut.



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These consoles really should be delayed to March, June, or July 2021. But it's clear Sony and Microsoft don't want that. It seems they'd rather have the consoles sell out right away than wait until 2021.
They clearly are not prepared, because we would have release dates and prices months ago if they were.



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Norion said:

You mentioned the main reason, price. A capable PC that's at least comparable in power to the XSX will cost about 2-3 times as much and that's not including the monitor since you'll want a good monitor to go along with a capable PC if you're not gonna connect it to a tv. Due to stuff like not paying for online the price difference will be made up over time but the entry cost is far higher and that's a major turn off to a lot of people. Another reason is if most of someone's friends play on Xbox and they play together often though thanks to crossplay that shouldn't really be much of a factor anymore in 2-3 years.

I get the numbers. But this is my counter to that.

Say there is going to be a PC in my house anyway. I am going to be spending around $1000 to build it. And no, I don't need it to be as powerful as the XSX, just need it to be more powerful than the XSS. Which s a 4TF machine.

If I already have a PC in my house, then I may be needing to upgrade the GPU, and again, No... I don't need to put in a $500 GPU in there,I can just throw in a $350 GPU into my existing PC.

Either way, the main thing here is that I have access to everything that comes from Microsoft. I don't need to own an Xbox to access all their content. And funny enough, ti s even the narrative MS is pushing.

If I were to do all that and forgo the PS5, then I am locked out of all the exclusive content that comes to that platform and would only hope that maybe 2-3 years after the release of some of that content it makes its way to the PC too.

If the argument is that "I just hate gaming n a PC" (which I personally do) then I can see the draw to an xbox. But that's kinda silly in of itself. have a decent PC by a 2 years ago upgrade standard with some parts that are probably 3/4 years at this point. And I am due anew upgrade this year or next year. And my budget is $1000. This is something I am going to do regardless of which console I own as I use my PC for a lot of other things. So for someone like me, it's flat out stupid for me to have a $1000 PC and still go and buy an Xbox.



Wman1996 said:
These consoles really should be delayed to March, June, or July 2021. But it's clear Sony and Microsoft don't want that. It seems they'd rather have the consoles sell out right away than wait until 2021.
They clearly are not prepared, because we would have release dates and prices months ago if they were.

Maybe you can say that about MS, but what gives you the impression that sony isn't prepared?

Because they are withholding pricing information? That's not an indication of how ready they are,itsjust a shift in strategy.

There really is absolutely nothing to gain for either of them to be announcing prices and release dates 4-6 months before the release of a new console. Which single other electronic device in the world does that?

Phones, GPUs, Laptops....etc are all announced 2-6 weeks before they hit shelves. Why should consoles be any different? What's important is that they show a decent amount of software that you will be getting that year, and they (well at least sony) is doing that. We are still yet to see a single next-gen game "running on the XSX".