And I thought the launch of the xbox one with halo MMC was a disaster..... company must be suffering some serious internal problems not related to development. Likely poor management/leadership. This often happens to independent studios when they get bought out because they lose a lot of freedom.
zero129 said:
1. Goopys whole point was that every MS Series X Exclusives would be held back for 2 years because of Supporting crossgen. If anything the MS show proved he was wrong, People where telling him that not every MS exclusive would be crossgen, people where also telling him that the ones that "are" wouldnt be held back anyway as like i said unless they where a massive open world game made to take full advantage of the Series X in the first place and the was no way that was going to happen in the first year anyways, The rest of the cross gen games was always going to look the way they did as they where only smaller games. So like i said Goopy should be the one apologizing for all that shit he was saying. I honestly dont know why your trying to paint him as innocent and in a good light as if he was right. 2. Halo's problems once again doesnt come from being cross gen. But if it makes you and Goopy feel better (Almost think ye where the same person sometimes) keep telling yourself it is. Ill prove how inconsistent you guys are with this. you guys believe Spider-man PS5 looks great and is an upgrade over the PS4 version. Yet its using the exact same engine from the PS4 version the same level layout etc. They have pretty much upgraded the PS4 version of the game with better lighting and textures etc by all accounts its a cross gen game as it was build with last gen in mind but its still doing things and looks better then what was possible on the PS4 version. Very funny how engines can scale right?. Like i said Halos problems doesnt come from Cross gen. 3. I honestly dont know how multi platform publishers and PC Devs do it then |
Simple, multi platform devs make a game with the lowest spec device in target. From there they upscale the resolution and/or framerate. Resulting in a near identical game. Its what we have seen since forever.
Edit: Its way you hear a lot of the pc players complaining that consoles are holding pc back. Cuz they where. Now you have x1 holding xsx back like its been for decades in the multi platform development.
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zero129 said:
1. Goopys whole point was that every MS Series X Exclusives would be held back for 2 years because of Supporting crossgen. If anything the MS show proved he was wrong, People where telling him that not every MS exclusive would be crossgen, people where also telling him that the ones that "are" wouldnt be held back anyway as like i said unless they where a massive open world game made to take full advantage of the Series X in the first place and the was no way that was going to happen in the first year anyways, The rest of the cross gen games was always going to look the way they did as they where only smaller games. So like i said Goopy should be the one apologizing for all that shit he was saying. I honestly dont know why your trying to paint him as innocent and in a good light as if he was right. 2. Halo's problems once again doesnt come from being cross gen. But if it makes you and Goopy feel better (Almost think ye where the same person sometimes) keep telling yourself it is. Ill prove how inconsistent you guys are with this. you guys believe Spider-man PS5 looks great and is an upgrade over the PS4 version. Yet its using the exact same engine from the PS4 version the same level layout etc. They have pretty much upgraded the PS4 version of the game with better lighting and textures etc by all accounts its a cross gen game as it was build with last gen in mind but its still doing things and looks better then what was possible on the PS4 version. Very funny how engines can scale right?. Like i said Halos problems doesnt come from Cross gen. 3. I honestly dont know how multi platform publishers and PC Devs do it then |
1. Nope, he posted MS themselves saying they would support crossgen for the next 2 years and them concluded that would held down the games on XSX. And in fact the games that aren`t crossgen from MS didn`t had a release date teased (and if it were to release exclusive next gen but before the timeframe that MS said they would launch all their games as crossgen then they would be lying).
2. If you think we are the same person report to mods, if won`t like the info. You also clearly didn`t read my posts about Spider-Man, because you basically didn`t say a single true point regarding it from what I posted.
3. When it is the same game you can clearly see they look and play the same, with only bell and whistles. When they really want to make it stand above they basically make 2 versions. Just look for the Legacy versions of Fifa on PS2 or PS3 or Switch. If scalability was this miraculous tool that you think they are there wouldn`t be a need for this.
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| zero129 said:
2. Halo's problems once again doesnt come from being cross gen. |
With all due respect, but...
I saw this video from Digital Foundry and i realy think they disagree whit you. Guy is prety much begging for 343I to drop Xbox one and realy insists that Last gen is holding back Halo... just saying
At 1min 18sec.
goopy20 said:
I'm not being unfair here man. Just tell me what MS has shown so far that gets you excited for next gen games? The truth is, Series X is an impressive piece of kit and I want it to impress the hell out of me. Unfortunately, impressing us with next gen experiences just doesn't seem to fit into MS's GP strategy. Instead, we have a 12Tflops beast of a console where its flag ship title has turned into a meme. |
Dude you gotta drop the act. You admitted to have a decent PC rig with PC Game Pass whenever a Xbox game comes out that appeals to you. You are not the target demographic to buy a Series X. You all ready in the ecosystem there is no reason for you to buy the console.
“Just tell me what MS has shown so far that gets you excited for next gen games?”
Avowed. Next gen Skyrim only on Xbox with 2 gens gap since said game released. And when they get the graphics cleaned up, Halo Infinite. Open world going back to series roots is a fans dream come true.
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Manlytears said:
With all due respect, but... |
What? industries professionals? who would believe them.
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zero129 said:
1. Goopys whole point was that every MS Series X Exclusives would be held back for 2 years because of Supporting crossgen. If anything the MS show proved he was wrong, People where telling him that not every MS exclusive would be crossgen, people where also telling him that the ones that "are" wouldnt be held back anyway as like i said unless they where a massive open world game made to take full advantage of the Series X in the first place and the was no way that was going to happen in the first year anyways, The rest of the cross gen games was always going to look the way they did as they where only smaller games. So like i said Goopy should be the one apologizing for all that shit he was saying. I honestly dont know why your trying to paint him as innocent and in a good light as if he was right. 2. Halo's problems once again doesnt come from being cross gen. But if it makes you and Goopy feel better (Almost think ye where the same person sometimes) keep telling yourself it is. Ill prove how inconsistent you guys are with this. you guys believe Spider-man PS5 looks great and is an upgrade over the PS4 version. Yet its using the exact same engine from the PS4 version the same level layout etc. They have pretty much upgraded the PS4 version of the game with better lighting and textures etc by all accounts its a cross gen game as it was build with last gen in mind but its still doing things and looks better then what was possible on the PS4 version. Very funny how engines can scale right?. Like i said Halos problems doesnt come from Cross gen. 3. I honestly dont know how multi platform publishers and PC Devs do it then |
Err.. weren't you the one who kept saying Halo Infinite would be natively designed for Series X? For months I've been saying what would happen when they finally revealed Halo gameplay and nobody believed me. People had too much faith in the things Phil was saying about scalability and were convinced they could just press a magical scale down button on the Xbox One.
Now, of course, all engines are scalable but that becomes irrelevant when MS is aiming for parity across all platforms. With Spider Man MM its a different situation as they don't have to think about parity, or any other platform for that matter. So yes, its using the same engine (no doubt tweaked for the ps5), but that doesn't mean they won't be able to push the engine much further. There are plenty of amazing UE4 tech demo's that arguably look even better than the UE5 demo. Its because they were designed specifically for high-end hardware and weren't designed to scale. We'll have to wait and see but it seems like it'll be the same case with MM.
Last edited by goopy20 - on 13 August 2020
Apparently Remedy has been working on CrossFireX for almost five years. I had no idea, hype even higher for that game now.
edit, my bad. Posting Xbox launch stuff in the Kena/Miles thread.
DonFerrari said:
If there is no game pushing XSX, and they rely on 3rd party that will also be on PS5 that Sony is pushing much more, momentum will favor PS5 tremendously. |
Sony has the advantage period. A Spiderman expansion doesn't move the needle much more in my opinion. Espeically if its very much like the last game. But its something.
Like I said, MS could push Gamepass and stress it has content that utilizes Series X. Then 3rd party games could get a big marketing push. Last, the Series S could be appealing for next gen gaming at a lower price. I think the best thing to do is compare Series S to 8th gen consoles, as it will look like a significant upgrade.
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