Is it that bad? I was going to look into that for my PC... I don't buy Sony products anymore so no PS4 in this house, lol.

It seems to be an early build they tested, it's not released yet. But yeah the build they tested is pretty bad.

"Personally, the more and more I see of next generation gaming the less and less impressed I become.  I'm thinking I will be passing on being an early adopter for now and just get more Switch accessories/games and catch up on my backlog of games."

Yeah... so I guess you're becoming less and less impressed with the Switch XD

I suggested "what you really want to do is talk about how the Switch is so much better than what Microsoft and Sony are doing". 

To which you replied by changing your conclusion to say...

"Just going to focus on the Switch and catch up on my backlog of games as their next gen focus is more appealing." 

Which is... like exactly what I said your actual topic was.

At any rate, the change in the OP does resolve the issue mostly. I'll give you time to change the title of the topic as well to actually describe what this topic is about. Something like "Nintendo's Approach to Next Gen Is Superior" or whatever. Next gen gaming is far too vague. So, do that before your next reply in this topic please. 

This was a discussion that would have been better to have via PM... but since you decided to call me out here, I felt I had to justify my actions, particularly since they didn't make sense with new OP. If you're the kind of guy who needs the last word, have at it. Not going to reply, because I legitimately don't want to derail this further, but will be keeping an eye on the topic. If it seems like a legit conversation about the next gen, cool beans. If not, then I'll talk with the other mods and we'll decide what to do :)

Hardware is very impressive. SSD internal drives, 16 GB RAM, Backwards Compatibility, 4K Blu-ray Drive, 12 TFLOPs for Xbox, 10.28 TFLOPs for PlayStation.
The software doesn't impress me yet. But it probably will within a few years.

Getting a little ahead of yourself with the pic there... lol

Regardless, I changed the OP to better reflect what my point of view was as you asked in the first reply.  Also, is the thread title more fitting?

The thread isn't intended to be a Nintendo is Best... it's about looking at the approaches we are seeing and how the community feels about those.

Not worried about "having the last word". Thanks for pointing out how it could be perceived, wasn't my intention.

Now back on topic, your post pointing out the graphical differences was well put together. Do you think gaming is close to reaching the limits of graphic fidelity on consoles?

Lol... I just PMed you about this. But yes, the thread title is more fitting. As I said in my PM, it's part of my job to be on the lookout for users who are looking to start trouble, so sometimes that does lead us maybe to be overly suspicious. Next time something like this happens, I'll PM you first, because in retrospect that may have been the better option.

On topic... I don't think I'd say we're close to reaching the limits on graphical fidelity on consoles. But, I'd say that for there to be another SNES-N64 level jump, there would have to be a major breakthrough in technology. Improvement can still happen without that, but if technology follows the current trend, the differences will be more incremental.

All good mate, we live and learn.

Yeah, I haven't really seen anything that offers that "major breakthrough" in technology, even on PC.  I guess that's why I fell out of love of gaming after the 360 era, the PS4/Xbox One era just felt more of the same in prettier makeup if you will, lol. Still doesn't feel like a "generational" leap in gaming, which I think explains Microsoft's approach currently. The Switch has felt much more innovative in gaming than anything else in a long time.

Well, that's the thing about major breakthroughs. By definition you don't see them coming. 

But since you bring up Microsoft, I actually do think that's the most exciting aspect of next gen to me (and sort of current gen). I think distribution is probably the biggest area for change in gaming, and if it's done right it could be a true gamechanger. I think the 60 dollars a game model keeps gaming as a very niche hobby, and I think a better pricing model would cause the industry to blow up. Of course if you do it wrong you end up with something like the app store which would be terrible.

Ratchet and Clank. Almost instantaneous loading from one world to another for one, making good use of high speed SSD. I can think of many uses for this - mainly horror games, like Silent Hill games like Medium. If you look at the hardware and capabilities alone, you just have to think everything on the Xbox One/PS4 but bigger. Because of the huge CPU upgrade (I can't emphasize this enough) upgrade expect bigger worlds, a lot more capable of processing physics, AI not to mention the leap in power for 3D audio - hugely overlooked feature imo.

And you do realize that that game came out on Wii U as well? I think you are mixing up gameplay and level design over what you think is possible to do on hardware available and are just explaining the Switches hardware main feature (its portable). Not being mean but you haven't even tried playing the most technologically impressive games as you are skipping/skipped the PS4 entirely. 

Yeah, this approach does have a lot space to change gaming.  Between Nintendo Switch Online offering their library of old games and Xbox offering their take on it, there is a lot of potential in this area.  I'm not a big fan of game streaming like the Stadia but it will offer gaming to much more people which is always a good thing.  EDIT: Personally though, I like having physical copies, but that is because we have multiple Switches so swapping games between them is easier that way, lol.

Another area I think that could use a lot of love is UI.  The Switch UI is okay for what the system is, but some sort of ability to make it more personal would go a long way, even something simple like different backgrounds.  The Xbox UI leaves a lot to be desired as well but the PlayStation UI makes me want to puke, lol.

And lastly, all the Shops are just horrendous for the most part.