"jump started "their" generation".
Nintendo didnt jump start the 9th gen.
Only their own product line of consoles.

2 > 1.

XB and PS are launching soon (together, at the same time), and thats when the 9th gen starts.

"Even if you want to use the word in the context of sales, since you brought up the point of the Switch competing with the PS4 and X One, when the PS5 and Series X eventually launches, what will become of your argument?"

And what about the Switch competeing agains the PS4/XB1? is that just to be ignored then?

nautilus you use a odd meaning of the word generations.
The entire forum is pretty split on what it actually means, but Im not alone in thinking so (the majorty I think actually views it this way).
Also we ve had this same discussion so damn many times, this is my last reply on the matter.

" it will still be the only Nintendo system on the market to compete with the other companies. It's a simple math. And much as the PS5 and the Series X is a 9th gen, so is the Switch. There is absolutely no way to confuse this."

Soon as switch 2, launches in like 2022, your gonna say its the 10th gen.
Even though it probably spends more time competeing against the PS5/XSX, than it does the gen after that.

Nintendo isnt part of the "generations" anymore.
They launch their own products whenever tehy want, typically mid gen of the others.

Also another arguement is, that generations always belonged to simular technologies.
8bit -> 16bit ect.

Switch is not made of the same stuff, as whats inside the PS5/XSX.
Its last gen in this aspect.

this is going to end well

you guys are basicly democrats vs republicans

So they real question op should have asked is if the switch is competing against the ps5 and xsx.

I would argue no. I would even go farther and say the switch is not even competing against the ps4/x1. There is no way they even share the same mindset when it comes to gaming. The switch is more of a handheld than a traditional console and its selling as is with zero competition. And it will crush everything because of it.

Once ps5/xsx come out then it will be impossible to associate thouse gaming experiences.

This.
Nintendo went after the "blue occean" strat, and basically left the traditional console part behinde.
Is the word generations, even with meaning then? if your talking about apples & oranges?

Thats ontop of this mess, of them not wanting to launch with the others.
When a generation, means just that.

Of course Nintendo started the 9th gen. It was the first one to launch a 9th gen console. If Sony launched the PS5 first, then they would have started the 9th gen.And yeah, if Nintendo launches the Switch 2 before the PS6 or Series X 2, it will be the start of the 10 gen. What's so confusing about it?

And no, you are in the minority. Just look at the poll and the answers. If the PS5 was "only" competing with the Series X in the 9th gen, I doubt it would have 70% of the votes on the No, considering most of the forum users are compromised of Nintendo and Sony fans. And the answers also show the same thing, that they don't think that will happen because Nintendo is just too strong right now.

If you want to compare 8th gen sales, then just compare them to the Wii U and the X One. Those are the 9th gen consoles. If you want to do it in a year by year basis, however, then it's fine to include the Switch, because you are comparing what each console did on their own on that day and moment.

And why is Nintendo not part of the "generation" discussion anymore? Is it fear that Nintendo will be so overwhelming better in the sales department that you want to remove them from the equation?

You know what? It's easier to make a thread and poll about this.

Yes. I don’t see many people needing to upgrade to the series x, as opposed to ps5. To be able to play those new Sony exclusives you will need a ps5.

Switch is most likely going to sell over 100M and Series X got good chances of selling at least 40M, that said, i will go whit a big "NO". To reach 50% market share Ps5 would need something like 140-150M, perhaps more, and this is just too much.
PS2 was a monster in sales and i can't see any other console doing similar numbers.

By my estimation the prevailing mentality on Vgchartz, historically and currently, is to not consider Nintendo a direct competitor to MS and Sony. Again and again. Through success and failure. I do not ascribed to this line of thinking, but feel it's quite pervasive.

If or if not Switch is considered the same generation as ps5, they will be the main market for a good period of time so i find it weird to exclude Switch. With that out of the way, no chance due to what i previous said.

It really depends on how you count the Switch and Switch successor. But... no.

I'd say it makes most sense to simply count switch sales from PS5 launch on. I'm assuming the Switch will hover around 17 million, give or take 3 million for the next three years, and there's little chance of the PS5 selling that much.

PS5 definitely has better buzz than XBox atm, but it's not like the one where Microsoft was just constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Microsoft also won't be launching at 100 dollars more most likely. So, I think they'll do a lot better.

Unless you want to argue that Nintendo shouldn't count at all, I can't see PS5 having greater than 50% marketshare.